Saturday, 15 August 2015

David Irving, forgotten heroes and ridicule before research

In an article titled, ‘The return of the Neo-Nazis: Notorious Holocaust Denier David Irving tells secret rally 'the RAF are war criminals,' Paul Cahalan and Sanchez Manning said this in the 26 July 2015 edition of The Mail on Sunday
"Convicted Holocaust denier David Irving addressed fascist sympathisers and neo Nazis at a secret meeting in London yesterday." 
David was convicted and jailed for three years in Austria, where, no matter how accurate they may happen to be, it is illegal to publish the results of one’s Holocaust investigations or to make public statements that contradict the official version. He was released, aged 69, after 13 months of that sentence.

The article continues:
“Irving, a historian who famously lost a libel case after denying the existence of Nazi gas chambers, was the star speaker at an event that attracted an audience of 120 Right-wing sympathisers… Behind closed doors at a four-star hotel in South Kensington, the discredited author gave a speech condemning the Second World War Allied bombing campaign over Germany and Nazi-occupied Europe as ‘a war crime’.”
One supposes, therefore, that Calahan, Manning, and The Mail on Sunday think the saturation bombing of non-combatants in Dresden, Hamburg and elsewhere in Germany was a necessary evil. The establishment historian, Martin Gilbert, tells us this:
“Hamburg: 27 July 1943: 'By morning more than forty-two thousand German civilians were dead. This was more than the total British civilian deaths for the whole of the Blitz.”
As many as three times this number may have perished in Dresden. We will probably never know the exact number as the authorities have done their best over the years to sanitise the actuality.

Were you aware that the official record admits that in just one raid more Germans died than were killed in the whole of the Blitz? If you rely on the mainstream media and the schoolbook for your history, it's extremely unlikely that you would know this.

Those who compose our past and present just never thought it necessary to have you made aware of the WHOLE truth.

Cahalan and Manning continue:
“Irving’s contentious speech was titled: ‘Saturation Bombing in World War II – who is to blame?' An invitation to the event, obtained by The Mail on Sunday, states: ‘David Irving is the world’s MOST respected historian, he’s the world’s TOP expert on World War II.’ But he was widely discredited after his high-profile libel trial…”
With factual accuracy in mind, one might rephrase the above statement thus: ‘The powers-that-be have done their damnedest to discredit him since his high-profile libel trial…’

Cahalan and Manning add:
"Attendees filed into the St James function room, which the group had booked out in a different name, from 11.30am – some wearing tweed and blazers, others in khaki trousers and black T-shirts with the logo of fascists groups including the far-Right Greek group Golden Dawn… 
The respected historian and broadcaster Andrew Roberts said: ‘It is depressing that such a meeting should take place in the 21st Century. The idea of treating David Irving as a historian at all is absurd. He doesn’t have the right to call himself that. Historians think of him as a Nazi propagandist and they have the backing of the High Court’.”

And yet, in the book, ‘Lying about Hitler,’ Richard J. Evans quotes Roberts thus:
"Several distinguished historians, all of whom asked not to be named, told me how much they admired Irving's tenacity in uncovering new material from Nazi sources."
Ever used any of Mr Irving’s ‘new material’ in your own histories, Andy? Within the same paragraph, Jenny Booth, writing in The Scotsman, is quoted as saying that Irving ‘was still seen as a substantial scholar in England and the US.’

The pre-eminent historian, Hugh Trevor-Roper, eulogised Irving thus in his 1977 review of ‘Hitler's War’:
"No praise can be too high for his indefatigable scholarly industry."
Likewise, A.J.P. Taylor describes ‘The Rise and Fail of the Luftwaffe’ as ‘scholarly, fair and highly informative.’

In the 28 May 1989 edition of The New York Times, Peter Hoffman said Irving’s biography of Hermann Goering was ‘detailed and richly documented’ praising him as ‘one of the most successful researchers on Nazi Germany.’

Gordon A. Craig, reviewing Irving's ‘Goebbels’ in the New York Review of Books in 1996, said this:
“Irving… knows more about National Socialism than most professional scholars in his field, and students of the years 1933-1945 owe more than they are always willing to admit to his energy as a researcher.... Hitler's War ... remains the best study we have of the German side of the Second World War, and, as such, indispensable for all students of that conflict.... 
It is always difficult for the non-historian to remember that there is nothing absolute about historical truth. What we consider as such is only an estimation, based upon what the best available evidence tells us. It must constantly be tested against new information and new interpretations that appear… 
Such people as David Irving, then, have a indispensable part in the historical enterprise, and we dare not disregard their views.”
The aforementioned Martin Gilbert, Churchill's official biographer, who is Jewish, praised ‘Hitler's War’ as 'a scholarly work, the fruit of a decade of wide researches.'

The military historian, Sir Michael Howard, Regius Professor of Modern History at Oxford, thought Irving’s ‘The War Path’ had 'very considerable merits' and said he was ‘at his best as a professional historian demanding documentary proof for popularly-held beliefs.’

Even many of his critics are are happy to compliment his meticulous investigatory powers. Paul Addison, an expert on WW2 history, castigates him as ‘often a schoolboy in judgment’ but, within the same sentence describes him as ‘a Colossus of research.’

The Board of Deputies of British Jews is not known for their positive opinion of David Irving. And yet, in 1991, they were moved to say this of ‘Hitler’s War:’
"The book however was far more than a simple denial of Hitler's role. It was thoroughly researched and employed a variety of themes… It also confirmed Irving's reputation as one of the world's most thorough researchers and an exciting and readable 'historian'."
Check out a few more reviews of Hitler’s War here. 

And reviews, positive AND negative, of his other work here.

'Treating David Irving as a historian at all is absurd,' Mr Roberts? 'He doesn’t have the right to call himself that?'

It appears that many who have much more right than you to call themselves historians would disagree.

You’ll find plenty of sneerers of the Roberts, Cahalan and Manning type ever ready to add to the growing pile of ad hominem nastiness directed at David Irving. However, as you can see, others have praised his efforts highly. You would not know this from the Mail on Sunday article.

The article also quotes ‘Gerry Gable of anti-fascist magazine Searchlight’ thus:
“This conference is another piece of evidence of a growing series of closed international far-right extremist Conferences. The core movers range from elderly Holocaust deniers to well-educated men and women who are being trained in ideologies of hate and being made ready for potential acts of terrorism.”
News to me. I’ve attended quite a few London Forum events and ‘potential acts of terrorism’ have yet to be discussed by the speakers or by the hoi polloi in the bar afterwards. At least, not in my presence. But then when did absolute b***ocks ever deter a Gerry Gable? For that matter, when it comes to a historian who dares to question the 6,000,000 mantra, when did the facts ever interfere with MSM propaganda?

In November 1963, David Irving called the police. His flat had been burgled by three men claiming to be GPO engineers. Subsequently, Gerry Gable was arrested and, on 14 January 1964, he, along with Manny Carpel and one other, admitted breaking and entering in with intent to steal.

No mention of this by Calahan and Manning.

Gerry Gable is Jewish.

No mention of that either.

Ladies and gentlemen, it’s abundantly clear that the cited essay isn’t the least bit interested in being even-handed. It's a scurrilous piece intended to both demean and ‘discredit’ a great historian and those who would hear him speak. I know no one who attends the London Forum who would describe themselves as a Nazi or a Fascist. On the other hand, I know lots of men and women who would proudly attest to being a British ‘patriot.’

And thereby hangs the truth of it. The establishment elites of the West and their lesser operatives are four square behind the push for globalisation, such that we end up with a world government ruled by an untouchable few. These see patriotism as their mortal enemy and will do anything to crush those who identify passionately with their country of origin and it’s history, culture and heritage.

David Irving’s speech to the London Forum was videotaped and you can compare at first hand what was said about him in The Mail on Sunday with the actuality. However, before doing so, I’d like you to take a look at the the 15 minute documentary below. If anything is ever going to encourage you to research the facts, figures and myths of the so-called ‘Holocaust’ for yourself, this might just do it.

Here then are the July 2015 observations of a ‘notorious Holocaust denier’ that Cahalan and Manning based their article on:

What do you think, ladies and gentlemen. Is this a bad guy? Is this English gentleman worthy of such strident vilification in the mainstream media? Or has his reputation and character been sorely traduced by unscrupulous and deceitful censors determined to see the truth he tells dismissed?

You know, it's not just David Irving and the 'Neo-Nazis' who try to awaken the majority to the alternative realities. Over the years a good many truth-telling Jews have blown the whistle on establishment spin and deceit. I wonder how happy the Mail on Sunday's finest would be to demonise these?

Rabbi Friedman

Shulamit Aloni

So, Paul, are you up for sneering at these? Are you ready to call them nasty names? How about you Sanchez, if you insulted these you'd be an anti-Semite, a Fascist, a neo-Nazi, wouldn't you?

Let’s take a closer look at some of those Manning and Cahalan take such issue with here.

On 1 August 2015, the Forgotten British Heroes Campaign convened at ‘the site of the British Colonies Club, which was bombed by members of the Irgun terrorist group on 7th March 1947 when numerous people were injured and maimed.’

Francis Carr Begbie takes up the story:
“Normally, a gathering of British nationalists in central London, proudly bearing English banners and Union Flags, would be met with a horde of screaming demonstrators bussed in from far and wide. But no disturbance took place last weekend when such a group of patriots assembled near Trafalgar Square and the reason is not hard to discern.

For such interference would have meant drawing attention to a historic episode the British government and the Jewish community leaders would most likely wish forgotten, the killing of 784 British police officers, servicemen, Crown servants and civilian staff by Jewish terrorists in the Palestine Mandate crisis between 1944–48.

The British government’s attempt to 'forget' the sacrifice of these servicemen and dump them down the memory hole is very reminiscent of another similarly embarrassing episode, the murderous Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in 1967... 
It was a time of great tension. The Arabs were beginning to realize that the promises and assurances they had been given at Balfour counted for nothing and their homeland was being given away. The Jewish settlers were being reinforced by the illegal immigration of thousands of Jews from war-devastated Europe and reinforced by armaments from the Soviet Union and financial support from the USA. 
Holding the line between them were young British servicemen and police, many of whom had come straight from the war in Europe and had taken part in the liberation of such camps as Bergen-Belsen, only to find themselves shot at and blown up by Jewish terrorists. Their deaths left a lasting bitterness among the veterans and their families.

The deaths included the hanging by piano wire of two 20-year-old British Army sergeants, Mervyn Paice and Clifford Martin, who in 1947 were kidnapped by Irgun and held hostage for three weeks. Their bodies were left hanging in a eucalyptus grove and were booby trapped with land mines.

Also the 100 British Army personnel, Crown servants and civilians who were murdered by means of a huge bomb planted by the Irgun in the basement of the King David Hotel, Jerusalem in July 1946. Another 28 British soldiers died in the bombing of the Haifa Cairo train…

In Britain, another victim was Rex Farran, brother of the intended target, Captain Roy Farran DSO, MC, an SAS anti-terrorism specialist. Rex opened a parcel bomb addressed to 'R. Farran' at the Farran family home in Staffordshire. A total of 20 letter bombs were sent in mainland Britain.

Many attacks took place while the war was still ongoing. These include the murder of Lord Moyne, Secretary of State for the Colonies, and his British Army driver, Corporal Fuller, on 6th November 1944 while British forces were still fighting in France…

The same terrorists, from the Irgun and Stern Gang, collaborated on a massacre of at least 100 Arab civilian villagers at the village of Deir Yassin on 10th April 1948. As with the murder of the two young sergeants, the Deir Yassin operation was organised by Menachem Begin, later a prime minister of Israel. He also received a Nobel Peace Prize... 
The deaths of British servicemen and the murderous ingratitude of the Jewish community caused a huge shock in post-war Britain. It is not widely known that the two young sergeants affair led to the last widespread anti-Jewish riots in Britain… 
Despite the anger among the British, up until 2001 there was no memorial and it was only after 60 years that the Ministry of Defence agreed that the conflict merited its own campaign medal…

Veteran nationalist Martin Webster was one of the organisers of the Forgotten British Heroes campaign. He was scathing about how they are not even allowed to take their place among all the other units of the British armed services to lay their wreaths at The Cenotaph in Whitehall on Remembrance Sunday:

‘No explanation for this exceptional ban on brave men and women at the national ceremony of remembrance has ever been given by official sources — but all know the ban has been imposed at the behest of the Jewish community’s sundry lobby organisations and their billionaire backers who donated millions of pounds every year to the main political parties.

The Establishment and the Jews can’t wait until the remnant of these brave men who served in Palestine (and their Old Comrades Associations) have died-off and no longer represent an embarrassment’

After the commemoration, the Israeli Ambassador in London, Daniel Taub, received a letter from the Campaign recollecting the details of the above Zionist atrocities. It makes several rather pointed demands given the highly successful history of Jewish post-WWII activism: that Israel pay compensation to the victims of Zionist terrorism and their families, build a ‘Museum of Zionist Terrorism’ in Jerusalem and institute courses about Zionist terrorism in Israel’s schools as a warning to future generations.
The letter is signed by Martin Webster, Richard Edmonds, Jeremy Turner, Lady Michèle Renouf and Peter Rushton.”
Presumably, these last named would embody the ‘Holocaust deniers,’ ‘far-Right figures,’ ‘international far-Right extremists,’ ‘British National Party members,’ ‘Nazi propagandists’ and ‘men and women who are being trained in ideologies of hate’ that Cahalan, Manning, Roberts and Gable would like us to beware of.

And yet, here they are calling for our ‘Forgotten Heroes’ to be treated fairly. To be commemorated as everyone else is who lost their lives in armed conflicts serving the nation. Have the four just Nazi hunters ever stood up for a similarly noble cause? They never bothered to ask for 700+ British servicemen, policemen and civil servants murdered by Jewish terrorists in Palestine to be commemorated on Remembrance Day, that's for sure.

Who are the good guys here? Those who would have this decades long iniquity maintained and the provenance of it remain hidden forever? Or those who would not?

Let’s vote on it.

Should the Forgotten Heroes of 1944-1948 be commemorated?

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Here's another question:

Is the Mail on Sunday right to smear David Irving and London Forum attendees as ‘Neo-Nazis and Holocaust deniers?’

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After you have listened to the presentations of Martin Webster, Richard Edmonds, Jeremy Turner, Lady Michèle Renouf and Peter Rushton, you will be better placed to respond to the following:

Who are the better Britons?

Cahalan, Manning, Roberts and Gable
Renouf, Irving, Webster, Edmonds, Turner, Rushton
Poll Maker

Here then is what was said outside the former British Colonies Club and at the meeting afterwards on 1 August 2015:


'Forgotten British Heroes' (Chapter 1)


'Forgotten British Heroes' (Chapter 2 - Peter Rushton)

In this last video, Eric Lowe, a veteran of the 1944-48 Palestine campaign, tells us this:


'Forgotten British Heroes' (Chapter 3 - Michele Renouf meets Eric Lowe)

Whom would you rather believe, ladies and gents? Those who would have the establishment propaganda remain forever unchallenged?

Or a gentleman like Eric Lowe?

The name callers and the insult-merchants of the on-message media?

Or 'one of the world's most thorough researchers?'

Gerry Gable or the honest patriot.

Research is the key. Finding out for oneself. It doesn't take much to uncover a whole lot of stuff they never bothered to tell you and it doesn't take much more to discover an Aladdin's Cave of awfulness the real bad guys will do their damnedest to keep from you forever and ever, Amen.

Cahalan, Manning and their bosses would rather have you side with the 'horde of screaming demonstrators bussed in from far and wide,' and join in uncritically with those who prefer to shout down the opposition than debate with it.

Ridicule before research every time with hacks such as these.

Check out the information in this essay. Check out the things David Irving and cited patriots have to say. Do that and, trust me, you'll be a whole lot closer to the facts of the matter than you ever were before.

P.S. If you wish to take issue with messrs. Cahalan and Manning, they may be contacted at Twitter here: @Cahalan @SanchezManning

If you want my head on a platter, I may be contacted in the same arena here: @ironwand


  1. That is certainly a very graphic and succinct run-through of the whole topic - and doing so highlights why it is important to keep harping on about it for sceptics like myself who feel we should move on now and concentrate on salvaging what is left of our bedraggled British Isles and its cultural roots and identity. In particular, it is a master stroke to assemble the views of prominent anti-Zionist Jews, beautifully presented along with their photos. These "self-hating Jews" are the golden key to throwing open the door to the woodshed - there is "something nasty in the woodshed" to quote Aunt Ada Doom in Cold Comfort Farm, and I guess it will only go away if we keep throwing open the door and letting in the light each time the door slams shut again (which is every 5 minutes of course).

    One reason I do object to spending too much time on the Holocaust, is that like the "self-hating Jews" I feel it is more important to examine what is wrong with our SELVES. How did we manage to get sucked into war after war after war in the 20th century? - talk to soldiers and you find out that they think just wars stopped with the war against the Boers who should have been left in peace, and the Boer War marked the first concentration camps and the beginning of the descent of our nation into hell (which is ongoing).

    If we keep blaming external enemies, or internal traitors, we will never save ourselves - because we need to focus on where WE went wrong in allowing all this to be done. Yes, we were tricked and coerced - but in the end, we have to act as if we were masters of our fate and not victims of wrongdoers or there is no hope for us.

  2. Most who end up as cannon fodder in the wars the elite want fought tend to be young, unsophisticated and ignorant of the realities. Even those who should know better can be manipulated by constant repetition of slogans and mantras.

    We should blame the blameworthy, I reckon. This includes ourselves, of course. There isn't too much excuse for the 23 million who voted LibLabCon in May 2015. Not after all that has happened and the access to real news and information provided by the internet.

    Nevertheless, dumbing-down, drugging-up, mass media propaganda and political correctness wasn't invented by the 23 million. It was foist upon them by those in a position to foist. By those in charge. By an elite who just happen to have had their worst interests at heart.

    Examining ourselves is always a good idea but, in the end, that examination must lead one to a point where one's enemies are acknowledged and confronted.

    Contemplation of one's inner workings might be good for the soul but, without due recognition of the enemy at hand, we may find ourselves practicing said contemplation in the afterlife. xx