These were their thoughts on the war in Ukraine.
DAVE: "The most important priority in the history of humanity is that America and Russia do not go to war, there's nothing more important than that... We'll destroy the the human species if we do this! And yet there's this war right on Russia's border and there's no effort to negotiate...
Actually, America threw Boris Johnson and and told Ukraine NOT to negotiate with Russia at the very beginning of the war when they had a deal worked out... And the deal was, basically, that Vladimir Putin would pull back. He would pull back his troops and leave Ukraine under the condition that Ukraine guaranteed autonomy for the Donbass region and agreed to never join NATO... That's not the perfect deal but it's better than what we we got right now!"
JOE: "Better than nuclear war."
DAVE: The official narrative on this whole War, it makes no sense... Remember the same people who are pushing this are the ones who were telling you Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction... The official narrative is, basically, Vladimir Putin is a a madman, a crazy war criminal who's hell-bent on reforming the Soviet Union... but also he's getting humiliated in this war in Ukraine. He's losing to the poorest country in Europe and he's getting humiliated and beat back but he's still a real threat to take over all of Europe...The 'stupid' American political and media elites got it wrong AGAIN then. Putin did something. And tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of people, have died as a result.
It's just like with Osama Bin Laden what, they did with him... Whatever you do, don't listen to what he's actually saying...
Osama Bin Laden hates us, because we're free! And then Ron Paul would just go, 'yeah but that's not what he's saying at all!'
Osama Bin Laden was so clear about why he hated America... 'I hate you because you murder innocent civilians in the Muslim world. You prop up brutal dictators in the Muslim world. You prop up Israel who mistreats the Palestinian people and you have your bases in our Holy Land, in the Arabian Peninsula.'
And then they're like, 'Nah, he hates us because we're free!'...
I'm just saying listen to your enemies, there's a reason why he hates us. And if you listen to Vladimir Putin and what he's saying... Look he's wrong for invading Ukraine... no excuse for that. Tens of thousands of people have died, it's horrible... a lot of them are civilians, but to say he was unprovoked is like insane!...
When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, and this was like verbally promised and put in writing, was that NATO would not expand one inch to the East and NATO, at that point the line then was through Germany, right? Like the Western half of Germany was in the west and the eastern half was with the Soviet Union. And they were like we'll let all of these nations secede and the Soviet Union will collapse and we're giving up on communism!
It's one of the greatest things that ever happened and the deal was, 'okay, you do that then we won't move NATO, we won't move our military alliance into your area that used to be your realm of influence. And every single President since then has moved NATO East to the point that NATO is now on Russia's border and in Ukraine, even though they didn't officially join!...
Right before the start of the war (Kamala Harris) said we're looking to put Ukraine into NATO! Under George W Bush they put in Poland these dual use rocket launchers, there's a big complaint that Vladimir Putin has that he's like 'these can be used to get nukes here in a matter of minutes... this is a threat to us that we cannot tolerate!'
Then, in 2014, there was a coup in Ukraine that was completely led by the West!...
Gideon Rose... on the old Stephen Colbert Report... was just openly bragging about what the game is here. And then he was like, 'well, Ukraine is kind of like the Robin to Russia's Batman, and so our job is to steal Robin away from Batman and make him come over here and join us and Vladimir Putin's so stupid that he won't do anything.'"
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