Who Exactly Are The Fabians?

On 25 September, 2025, Lewis Brackpool interviewed author and writer of 'The Sam Hyde Show', Jay Dyer, an authority on the history of the Fabian society.

Jay also presents 'The Alex Jones Show' intermittently throughout the week.

This is what was said:

"None of this could have actually been successful had there not been a faux conservative, faux right-wing controlled opposition that acted as if they were in a battle with these people but would always concede. People can see it now. People always say about the civil service, judges, all of these very, very important key parts of society now are being occupied. How do you go up against a beast like that when you have institutions, the civil service, and absolutely everything dominated by this one think tank.

Marx had the idea that the proletariat would rise up and overthrow the nobility the owning class, the bourgeoisie, etc. But that didn't happen. So what happened after the phase of there not being successful proletariat revolutions, and even in the case of Lenin and Trosky, there's significant evidence that they would have never been successful had they not had western banking and corporate funding people like the Warburgs, the Schiffs, and the Rockefellers were big supporters of the revolution. 

So, really, Marxism after this period was in kind of a stalled state. They had a revolution in Germany for a little while but it only lasted a few years and then it was overturned. So they were trying to figure out what do we do and a couple of figures in the UK rose to prominence namely Beatrice and Sydney Webb and another character named Wallace... and I was happy to have had a researcher recommend this to me... and it's called the Milner Fabian Conspiracy... It goes into, basically the history of the Fabian Society particularly, obviously, in the UK but also how they did link up with, and connect with and support, all the other socialist movements. So even though they didn't really agree with everything that

Lenin believed in, like Red Terror per se, or uh the bloody approach, they were big supporters. In fact, Sydney Webb, Beatrice Webb, they wrote letters to uh Krupskaya, Lenin's wife, and so forth, supporting the movement even if they thought there might be better approaches. 

So what is the better approach? The idea is let's reform Marxism and instead of this proletariat worker class who doesn't care about the obscure neologisms of Marxist theory, they're worried about going getting on lunch break. They're not interested in overthrowing the means of, you know, the corporate structure to take control of the means of production. Let's focus on recruiting wealthy people to fund the movement. And so they came up with the idea of reformed Marxism, and or a capitalist-friendly Marxism, and this was seen as a much better approach, not just for optics but for actually getting things done. 

They were also still consistent in their call for uh radical social Darwinism, the creation of a new man, all non-socialists eventually should perish. They believed in forms of disgenics and genocide. And they just didn't want to be as open about it. And so many of these people... were also connected to and thought the idea of Marx's secret society model could also work as well. 

So, I'm not saying the famous society is a totally secret society. It's kind of a private public type of society, but it does share some of the elements of the strategies of planning things in secret. And here's the big key essential thing about Fabian society is doing things in slow motion rather than trying to do a fast overt bloody revolution. If we utilize the techniques and strategies of propaganda, psychological warfare, infiltrate and, penetration and subversion is one of their phrases, we could get a lot more done than this overt model. 

So they very early on were very successful in recruiting very wealthy industrialists and capitalists. Very powerful nobility as well. Lord Milner becomes one of their chief supporters. I would argue Lord Rothschild as well is in the background as a supporter.

 The Fabians do eventually become kind of a masked version of the Labour Party. So the Labour Party is really named after this whole idea. It used to be the Fabian ideology, but they renamed it as Labour to sound like they cared about the workers. But this is exactly why they have really this radical policy, to which, again, the Labour Party is really founded to establish and implement Fabianism...

They weren't so much interested in overt political terror, like assassinations or revolution in the bloody sense, but they were very interested in culture war and aesthetic terrorism. In fact, they were some of the first to promote um I don't know if we're going to be on YouTube or not, so I don't I don't know if I'm going to say this word, but obscenity in the public as a form of art. But they understood that what this would do is

actually become a kind of aesthetic terrorism to brutalize and shock the public to move the social Overton window more and more and more towards the left. 

So they did believe in forms of aesthetic or artistic terrorism maybe not as a much overt terror even though they maintain the same bloody ideologies of the Marx the radical you know Lenin/Marxist types that believe that anyone not a part of the revolution would eventually have to die. 

George Bernard Shaw, another one of the famous Fabian socialists, was very overtly explicit in that that most white people would especially have to die because they would not go along with this revolution. And the other thing to remember is that they were the key figures 100 plus years ago planning to open up the UK, and by extension the rest of Europe, to Islam as a strategy of social demographic change for socialism...

Some of the most powerful and influential people have been members openly and the fact that this is something in the open doesn't mean that it can't also have an element of secrecy and subversion and long-term radical goals. So really those claims are just kind of red herrings and distractions from the known very accessible history of the Fabian Society. 

For example, some of its members have included, not just people that you've heard me mention like Lord Alfred Milner, who was a huge supporter of this whole movement, as well as a lot of support from the Rothschilds... But this ideology included, of course, HG Wells... Bertrand Russell, we've lectured through two or three of his books as well that deal with the erection of this sort of future technocratic socialist depopulation agenda which, by the way, he was a big supporter also of the bringing in of Islam into the UK very, very early on. 

So a lot of the people who are again very prominent well-known people were a part of this uh and the long-term strategy according to the people in it and the founders is a radical strategy. It's just don't do the radicalism right away.

So again, Bernard Shaw, all these people, they talk about destroying the indigenous people groups of Europe and the UK, doing this through mass importation of foreign and, specifically, Islamic groups originally... That actually set up the first pro-Islamic think tank organization in the UK, that then began to bring other Islamic groups to where now we get Sadiq Khan and people who are Fabian socialist Islamic, you know, Mayors. I mean, yeah, he was a chair exec I believe. You can even find it on their website, saying that he was Executive Chair along with a very famous judge in the UK, Lord Hermer, who has, you know, represented all sorts of people such as Shamaya Begum and, you know, Gerry Adams, all of these characters...

Marx and the Marxists always talk about creating the new social man. Let me read just real briefly here what what Ratu says about the wolf and sheep's clothing and this image. He says, "As if to confirm the subversive nature of Fabians, George Bernard Shaw, in 1910 commissioned a stained glass window, showing from left to right, Fabian leaders Edward Peas, Sydney Webb, and Shaw himself, forging out of the world of the

old out as the other Fabians kneel and worship, which is intended to be humorous and attitude towards their writings elevated as if they were divine scripture and divine rite, and portraying a cultlike nature of socialism and the Fabian society in particular. Making socialism and Fabianism into a religious movement... 

The windows motto is remold the world nearer to the heart's desire, citing the medieval Iranian poet Omar Kayyam. And then there's this long Islamic thing, and then it says Fabians would plan then to destroy, and then reconstruct, all of society according to their image. And thus the other image that they chose was a coat of arms of a wolf in sheep's clothing holding the red flags with FS, or Fabian Society, which is now still in existence but located at the London School of Economics. 

So none of this has gone away. Here's the stained glass window with the three key founders in this sort of religious cultlike imagery. 

So when we talk about everything from the United Nations, well the League of Nations and the United Nations, they were both founded with open Fabian Socialist ideology, the World Council of Churches, the Aspen Institute, NATO, the IMF, the World Bank, on and on and on. They are all suffused with and literally headed up by open members of the Fabian Society committed to this ideology all the way even to the early heads of the OSS, which is the predecessor to the CIA, they were headed up by Fabian socialists, the very beginning of British intelligence in terms of MI5, also Fabian socialism. 

So that's how influential this is even to the point of US presidents Woodrow Wilson, under which we get the Federal Reserve...

It's just insane. I mean, you do see a lot of overlap. You know, I think you mentioned earlier a particular line very similar to the Klaus Schwab, World Economic Forum, penetrate the cabinets. It's very similar language where it's almost, it's the slow, they obviously say themselves, the slow incrementation, but also it's a takeover is what it is. And they're not shy about it. 

Another thing that I've noticed that's very that overlaps a lot is a lot of esoteric stuff that the Fabians are very into. What do you know a bit more about with regards to esoteric um stuff that the Fabians believed?... The new age movement, which post 1960s in the US really encompasses everything from crystals to yoga to transcendal meditation to gurus, you name it, all of that stuff that comes out of the 1960s movement in the US was actually predated and promulgated decades earlier by you got it Fabian socialist Madame Blavatsky, the founder of the religious synchronist cult called Theosophy. 

There's a great article by a history of espionage scholar, Dr. Richard Spence, about Theosophy's connection to intelligence operations as well. He argues, and it looks fairly substantially true, that Blavatsky was probably, at some degree, working as an intelligence operative, and so her secret teaching missions that she would do to these other countries were also probably going to meet with for example KGB operatives...

On a broader scale there was tremendous support from the Rothschilds and from the other Fabians to push this free love message, not in the 1960s, but through Fabians in 1907. The Fabians were pushing open relationships, pan community, whatever you want to call that in 1907.

In fact, I mentioned that obscenity art that was intentionally a satanic construct. Let me see what he says about this. He says, "Behind the widely acknowledged talent of some of the Fabian artists, there actually lurked a dark secret for their deviant instincts. This all pervading Fabian hold on society meant that the works of art like Gil produced a Fabian predict uh practitioner of PDF inc and BED would make their way into respectable institutions like the London Electric Railway, the BBC, the League of Nations, and even inside Westminster Cathedral. So notice this isn't modern day New York, MoMA, Museum of Modern Art, MoMA where they have degenerate disgusting art. This is 19 like 07.

So they were way ahead of the curve with satanic art and explicitly satanic art 100 years before everybody else, paving the way, not just with all of the new age occult type stuff, with Blavatski, Bailey, Besant, the three witches of the United Nations, right? All of whom by the way were Fabian socialists. They were also preparing the way for the, as we said, aesthetic attack on art. Other individuals associated include people like Gerf, the self-help guru. And he says here leading Fabians like Annie Besant, AR Orange, Clement Attley, also joined Masonic lodges with the idea of promoting Fabianism through Freemasonry. the alternative numerance of these times like Theosophy, and even GI Gurg's fourth way became associated with and promoted Fabian socialism and, I want to say, even the Scottish National Party some years back, that was gaining attention for news attraction related to Brexit and all that kind of stuff. They're not saying they were for it but they were they were in the news at that time. 

They also, I believe, are a Fabian Socialist institution. 

Brilliant. Well, it's funny you mentioned Clement Attley because he was considered a darling on the Left wing in the Labour Party, I believe. And I want to just triple check this obviously preceded by Winston Churchill straight after.

I mean, it says it on the tin. You mentioned Rothschild, so of course funding isn't necessarily an issue there, but I'm thinking in more sort of modern sense because I guess being the oldest think tank in Britain uh set up by um these particular guys, Peas and all the rest of it. I think now when you look at the modern point of the Fabian societies, what keeps it going I believe is things like other NOS's uh charities but also people like Sadiq Khan and others that have been Chair. 

Tony Blair another one, Tony Blair massive example as well, I mean, that guy, the amount of skeletons in that man's closet, it's unbelievable.

In terms of funding and things like that... I know it sounds like a very bizarre question, but I would imagine the funding still comes from all these same types of entities, you know, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, you know, for example, David Rockefeller, over here in the US, he early on when he was doing his grad work studied under von Hayek, the famous, you know, libertarian economic theorist, the liberal theorist. But then when he went on to do more advanced studies, he studied under the most Fabian, the most famous Fabian socialist economist in the US, Harold Laski. And Rockefeller then seems to have been committed to this ideology, more so than the, you know, the libertarian ideology...

This is definitely going in a worse direction when he chooses to really support these types of ideas and systems. And so I would say that not too long after, you know, Rockefeller's committal to this you get in the US we had these hearings called the Ree Committee hearings and the Ree committee hearings were investigating the big foundations in the US like the Rockefeller Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation etc., because all these foundations had a similar approach which was to put tons of money into leftist socialist causes such as this. 

So this has really been going and and what they found was it was the case and then of course nothing was done. So, it's almost like all these hearings, you know, when you see people, you know, brought up to government hearings and congressional hearings and it's like it's like a show kind of like they do this hubbhub and there's all this media gibberish and then nothing happens. Nobody gets in trouble. It's just sort of like, okay, well, this happened. So, likewise, I don't think this has ever ceased. 

And I would say it's all these same usual suspects, and that's because these are the suspects that originally set up these institutions, especially in the US. What happened was when these Fabian Socialist Institutions are set up in the UK, everything as we said from the London School of Economics to Chatham House, etc. And eventually the great British universities also end up kind of moving into being engines of this whether it's Eton or Oxford or Cambridge, are all really the same ideological structure here in terms of the power brokers. Maybe not every professor but, you know, the overall power structure running things. 

So what happens is in the US the elites in the US decide to kind of mirror this. It's called the eastern seaboard establishment. The Rockefeller family at the at the forefront of this sets up in the in New York Pratt House, which is supposed to be the model for Chatham House. It's the New York version of uh Chatham House in the UK.

And that spawns things like the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, and then eventually Bilderberg. All of which all share this same Fabian Socialist ethos. Again, even if not every individual espouses this, that's the overriding ideology. And one way to see that is to look at their chosen economist of choice. The elite chosen economist of all the Fabians, he's their premier is John Mayor Keynes.

Keynesian economics, which dominates the 20th century, which dominates academia throughout the world in the west, is a Fabian socialist exercise. So that explains the whole monetary principle, the whole support the whole system and you're absolutely right.

You see, I was going to say in terms of roles of the political landscape, but we know especially in the UK and the US as well, most of the Western Hemisphere now uh over this incremental period since World War II, we have seen many institutions from like you mentioned the BBC, universities, all of these big conglomerate institutions, Oxford Union, all of these places have almost been, well, you can call it infiltrated. by this same society now, and people can see it now. 

People always say about the civil service, judges, all of these very, very important key parts of society now are being occupied by this particular society. So I guess I don't want to I don't want to be a black-piller, obviously, because, you know, you should never black-pill, but, for me, how do you reconcile with a beast like that?... How do you go up against a beast like that when you have institutions, the civil service and absolutely everything dominated by this one think tank, that is a, you know, as well as a secret not so secret society?...

I mean it's almost impossible, right? It's definitely a juggernaut, but the the weak point is that it it's very difficult to make it work. And so the its weakest point is that it actually always fails. Okay? And it's kind of intended to fail, right? I mean, it's actually the long-term purpose is to put into place actual policies that bankrupt the nation. That steal from pensioners, that steal the value of the currency over time, through inflation and money printing and all the Keynesian ideas. 

It's a very, especially with Keynes, it's a war-based economy. Since it's not a production-based economy, they will always promote war even though they're supposedly leftists or whatever. That's all really a front. So as as they said here, all facts considered bringing the entirety of the society under state control.

 Now this is George Bernard Shaw himself talking about how Labour would be the front for a total control via the Fabian Society operating from behind the scenes with Labour as a democratic front... It's a cloak they wear of populism, but it's actually a an extremely elitist, you know, wealth-based uh monetarist club, you could say even eventually committed to kind of ,you know, mass murder and depopulation actually, according to their their real ethos. 

So that's I think one of the weak points that it has is that, if people can see that number one the policies don't actually work. They're consistently destructive. 

And you know I noticed you guys had 3 million people marching. They don't all know about the Fabian Society but they noticed that the Fabian Society policies seem to wreck things very well. And it's almost like maybe they're wrecking it on purpose. But the other weak points I think would be that you know a lot of evil points people back in the direction of things that are good. So I think that, in terms of orthodox Christianity solid, you know, tradition minded people are making a resurgence because they see how destructive and evil all of this stuff is.

Gen Z. Yeah. Exactly. and and and I think we're people are beginning to understand that the whole 20th century its myths its narratives, the post Breton Woods system of the dollar as a reserve world reserve currency, all of that mythology is beginning to collapse. And so that's actually a good thing because that means a lot of the institutions and things built up as a result of it whether it's the IMF or the World Bank or any of this kind of stuff, or the mainstream media etc., that legacy stuff is going to be collapsing..

He talks about this in the in the middle of the book as the parabos Rothschild banking system and that's what's the locust and the heart of all of this. Even the Fabian society couldn't really function without this massive support from these money oligarchical elites and industrialists.  

The Rothschilds have massive wealth and control of the gold market. So Rockefeller says many many of these families are very adept at manipulating the gold market. It's a lot harder to manipulate something like like Bitcoin. So I would say economically Bitcoin is something that's an affront to this system. This is why for example the IMF says any country in the IMF cannot have a gold standard and thus by extension as they told El Salvador they want El Salvador off of a Bitcoin standard because it's digital gold. 

So, uh those are the economic ways that people can fight back against this um the spiritual and then uh it's probably a little bit difficult in the UK but uh like here in the US we have a much larger land mass um it's very and really it's the same system you know we just had this Fabian socialist uh uh I think he's a Fabian social but some kind of so the socialist Muslim guy in New York Mandani so we're getting the same thing happening in the We're getting mosques built all over the US. So, I think that uh you know, people need to move out of these basically democrat socialistrun cities, find land in the countryside, and you're much better off. with regards to uh the opposition when when we talk about, let's say British politics we we you've obviously you've of course heard this before uh the uni party they call it where the trust from both parties uh is completely diminished and that both parties seem to enact the same agenda from the Tory party to obviously the Labour party.

Is there crossover, do you think, with the Fabian Society and of course the quote unquote Conservative Party as a whole? Is there crossover or has the Fabian Society been like the sort of umbrella and it's created other like you mentioned the trilateral commission is a is a massive one. Bilderberg is another one that's that people talk about. Um, has that kind of has the Fabians been like the top umbrella and then underneath that it's created ones that are more I hate the word cuz it's cursed but inclusive to like uh to like the conservative Tory party that it sort of molds together. 

Yeah. In fact, Ratu has a good chapter where he talks about how none of this could have actually been successful had

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there not been a faux conservative, faux right-wing controlled opposition that

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acted as if they were in a battle with these people but would always concede.

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And uh we have the exact same thing of course in the US. We've had, you know, the Republican party, which for so many

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decades was really just uh the neoconservative Zionist party. Uh and it

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plays the role of conservative and uh you know, now we're up to the point

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where oh well, we have to be big tent conservativism and have you know, trans uh you know, trans politicians and all

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this like this is where we so you know that's by design. Absolutely. And that itself is part of the Fabian dialectical

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control model where you have uh false debates, false opposition. Um and

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usually people that are significant real opposition are filtered

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out. Um it's very difficult, you know, to get into politics

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without money. Um whether it's the US or

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the UK. So, I think that a lot of a lot of this is done through, you know, monetary control and backing. Um,

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and and there's it's difficult to say with Trump to what degree we, you know, are actually dealing with.

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It's just a mess. Uh, but I mean, I think that even Trump kind of is afraid of Israeli power, uh, Zionist power, and

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Zionist power is not antithetical to what we're talking about. In fact, um I was just looking at Moses Hess and uh

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you know if you read Moses Hess's early books on Roman Jerusalem,

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he's talking about Zionism uh in 1862. So this is something planned way before

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the modern nation state of Israel came to be or even way before the Balfford declaration. Um and you know the early

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Zionists were all socialist. So whether it's Herzel or Hess or Heimitesman

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um these people are also socialists. So no there's nothing anti there's no cuz I've talked about oh you won't talk

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about Jews you'll talk about the Fabians. It's like these all are the same allied entities that push the same

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revolutionary philosophies. So they're not antithetical. They all work together. Anyway, um I already forgot

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what the question was. Apologies. It was the uh the Tory party.

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Oh yeah. The fake the fake left right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think this has been known since um in

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fact uh I overlooked Spinosa. I mean I was pretty aware of Hegel and Hegel's

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philosophy and influence but actually Moses hes talks about how important uh Spinosa was and a lot of that philosophy

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whether it's Spinosa or eventually Hegel it's all based on dialectics and thus the idea that well if we can control

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both sides of the dialectic that's a key way to have control and we see that

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obviously with you know conservatives and liberals and pretty much everything

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since the re French revolution I would argue is A, you know, it's the French Revolutionary at toss general tennis

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court between the left and the right. The fake left, fake right. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I think uh I

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think we've covered quite a lot. I'm trying to think if there's anything else to to add uh that we've not already

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covered. Um he does talk about again you know

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quite a bit of the uh usefulness in the Ratio book which I recommend everybody read um of how they imported Muslims.

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They really saw that as a successful operation um again planned 100ish years

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ago 100 more. But also groups like uh Antifa actually spring out of uh Fabian

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Socialists. Uh we think of that as something Yeah. Many of the um let me

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I'll read this. The Fabian's National Union of Students had been linked with far-left organizations like Unite

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Against Fascism and Antifa, Anti-Fascist Action, and even the IRA connected Red

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Action, which advocated for socialism through terror increasingly together with radical Islamic student societies

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with links to Islamic terror. Uh that's Ratu on page 121. So a lot of the ideas

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even even things like social justice come out of some of these uh socialist ideologues

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right well that's that is very unsurprising you know considering considering what

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they have been like over the past however many years um so it doesn't surprise me a lot a lot of the times

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when people so when I when I go out and do things like freedom of information requests in the UK to try and uncover a

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lot of information from institutions or government departments. A big question

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that comes up is all to do with the protest movements on the far left. People like Stand Up to Racism, you

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know, well, Antifa is its own sort of conglomerate anyway, but you know, Stand Up to Racism, all these guys that are

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being funded allegedly by people like the Labor the Labor Party and that kind

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of inner circle. So you can you can always see and draw like the lines

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between uh each one. Uh and it seems I mean correct me if I'm wrong it seems to

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just connect back to this same particular society. Absolutely. I mean this ideology even if

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the society itself isn't directly controlling everything or everybody this

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ideology again you know John Mayer Kanes wasn't in the Fabian society but he's

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the chosen official economist of the Fabian society so uh you know Burch and

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Russell I think was only a member for a very short time but it doesn't really matter because all of the ideology that

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they promote is essentially compatible uh you know Bill Clinton,

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third way proponent, just like Tony Blair. That's all the same thing as Fabian socialist ideology. Oh, um I put

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up a uh a thing from an article that was posted a while back uh on uh Infowars

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and it was a list of the dozens and dozens of just in the US

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leftist NOS's, think tanks, foundations that all network and uh coordinate

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together to help and to promote and to indoctrinate what are supposedly these

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organic leftist movements, demonstrations revolutions etc. And of course there's

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countless of them. But u what I was pointing out was simply that in the US

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and the same in your country, we're not really going to see actual change until we realize that these politician

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grifters come and go. Right? These boobs get voted in and voted out. But what

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doesn't change and doesn't go away is the dozens and doz hundreds of NOS's,

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think tanks, and foundations. And really that's going to have to be uprooted before there's significant significant

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change even above the politicians. Yes, absolutely. Especially NOS's,

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charities, that's a a massive thing in the UK. As an example, uh the home

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office that you know supposedly manages our immigration system and uh and keeps

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track of who's coming in and out the country. uh putting through an FOI to

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them. They gave me the list of charities from 2020 to 2024.

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uh ones that have had consultations with the home office with regards to uh

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basically involved with uh illegal migration and it gave you the list of each charity and

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each NGO and even law law firms as well that were involved and it doesn't strike

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me as it doesn't strike me as weird that all of these are are connected somehow.

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No, not at all. In fact, uh uh my suspicion that I was just talking about

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on the interview or fourth hour, I forget what, but my suspicion is that um a lot of the NGO leftist complex is a

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lot more integrated and a lot more coordinated than we tend to expect.

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And also, um a lot of this is funded with our tax money. So, uh, again,

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they're socialists, so they have no problem stealing and using the tax money against the population because they're

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not actually populists. They're anti-populous. In fact, the WF, I remember a couple years ago during uh

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the big SCOP from 2020 that we all underwent, they were putting up articles

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saying that the future threat is uh evil populism, right? The the e the people

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basically is the problem. So yeah, so they're going to steal uh

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taxpayer money, utilize it for these operations for these uh uh NOS's and whatnot. Um and I I suspect they're much

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more coordinated. In fact, I think I was looking at some stats the other day and it was something like there's in the

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world around 1 million uh NOS's, think tanks and foundations that exist to you

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know push to lobby to do all whatever they do. And uh 90 to 95% of them are

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leftist. So So all of that money is coming from

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these elites. They run the money printer. They run, you know, the IRS,

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the, you know, Federal Reserve. They run all that. They print the money and they can just, I guess, infinitely fund this

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uh giant scam machine that they have. Speaking of another one of these uh

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socialist-minded individuals, there was according to k towigley in his other

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book Anglo-American establishment the uh keri plan which is a real thing.

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I have his book here. It's called practical idealism. Mhm. In which he says that the existing stock

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of the European nations including the UK need to be destroyed and bred out.

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Uh it's just insane. Just an insane. Yeah, exactly. And people say it's a conspiracy theory. It's in his freaking

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book. Like I've got the book. We've we've talked about it for years, but Quigley even says that. And he Quickley

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is not a conspiracy theorist for those that don't know. He was Bill Clinton's mentor. He is an apologist for this

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system. So he's not a conspiracy person. He's a promoter of it. On page 284,

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Quigley says that uh there were two plans that were adopted by the Royal Society in the 1930s. One of which was

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uh Lord Lionel Curtis's Commonwealth of God plan uh accepted by the uh roundt group. The

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other plan that they heard and accepted was the Colergy plan. So the Fabian

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socialist plan that we are all living under is a combination of Curtis's

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Commonwealth of God which is basically the Roads Ruskin uh style world

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socialist model and the Keri plan of Count Kunov Keri to destroy the existing

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European people groups. And actually if you read 1984 as uh Ratu discusses when

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he talks about uh big brother and ing is the Fabian socialist.

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Yes I have heard that before. I have heard that before. That's um that that

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is written on on behalf or like a a kind of just like a mimic of that.

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Yeah. because he understood uh what the driving ethos of British intelligence

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and the elite power structure was. That's why he wrote the book. And he was afraid he was going to be killed for it, too, by the way.

50:10

Right. That's it. I've got the thing up here. Sorry. It's the structured list of non-governmental organizations and

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charities that were formally engaged by the Home Office in relation to asylum accommodation policies between 2020 to

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2024. Uh including the type of engagement and years of involvement. So this is ones like uh Micro Rainbow, the

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NACCOM, British Red Cross, Refugee Action, Asylum Matters, Scottish

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Council, uh Refugee Council, which is a a very historic one,

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um ASAP, Asylum Support Appeals, which are all of these guys, migrant help. I

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mean the list goes on and on but it seems to me that there is a kind of you

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can draw the line as we were saying we you can draw the line between them and

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where either funding and coordination comes from. Yeah. And and this is the whole purpose

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of multiculturalism. In fact, uh, Ratia's book goes on in the later chapters to discuss the connection

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between multicultization and the destruction of Europe by design.

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And and this is the thing is like, oh, it's the incompetent politician. They're not incompetent. Many well, many of the

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politicians are incompetent, but the people in this structure running these NOS, think tanks, foundations, etc.,

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they're not incompetent. They know what they're doing. I was going to actually ask you that that question as a final

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question. Uh people a lot of the time people say incompetency or agenda based.

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I I believe it's it's a bit of both but it's mostly agenda based. Uh because you

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know you get these wets that just come through politics. They they you know have this false equivalence of um how do

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I explain it? They they're almost like groomed. It reminds me of the young um

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global leader scheme. uh you know it's almost like a corporate grooming system when I boss uh years ago to to do some

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reporting on the ground and to you know doorstep a few people which was really fun. Um when we were out there and you

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know looking around you had all these shots you had Palunteer like all these standup shops that they would erect just

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before Davos like where he come from would get together and talk uh and they would really just promote promote

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promote meta uh you know Palanteer like I just mentioned all of these big sort

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of organizations that are in bed or coordinate with uh these like United

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Nations, World Economic Forum and the only thing I can think is is corporate

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grooming. That's the only way to uh really try to

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what am I trying to say? It's the only really way to try and describe it. So what would I guess the question going

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back? What would you what do you actually believe that it is? Do you believe that it's more um agenda based than

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incompetency or is there an overlap? Like what's your take on that? There's a layer of uh idiots and ideologues and uh

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Quigley mentions them in both of his books. They're called the helpers and the helpers don't know the big the big

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plan. They're just ideologues recruited out of college uh corporate grooming like you're talking about there. Uh but

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at the top uh people that running the international uh you know banking groups, the hedge funds etc. Many of

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these people do know what's going on. For example, Ratu at the end of the book has several uh sort of structured uh

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appendices that he explains that he thinks explain this very well. So, for example, here you have um one that is

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hard to get can't figure out what I'm doing here. So you've got uh banking structure up there at the top and then

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you've got Fabian society funded by them and then you've got these other lower level uh institutions and and on the

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ground sort of student stuff. So in that sense, no, it's definitely ideological.

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And in fact, uh the latter part of the book works through a bunch of the United Nations programs that are intent on implementing these ideas and these principles which clearly are not they're with forethought. They are planned. Um here's another structure that he gives uh of

banking and industry Rockefeller Rothschild underneath them things like Black Rock ESG all that kind of stuff

and then lobbying and philanthropy and then the think tanks etc. So these kinds

of lists I think help sort of explain kind of the the overall structure of

this system and how it works. So I think all of these things are at the top at

least definitely selfaware and colluding by design. Again I mean there's so many

books and so many admissions that it's hard to believe that uh there's not a lot of design and plan. However, not

everybody knows, right? you got a lot of people um you know take in the US for

example you know I've met a lot of people interviewed a lot of people talked to high power people I think um

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very few know this full game plan and I'm not trying to uh brag or toot my own

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horn but uh why is that well very few people are going to sit and and read

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this right who's going to read tragedy and hope right not many people uh how many people are going to read the big

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Bzinski's books, Kissinger stuff, Rockefeller, not very many. So, I think that you actually have to kind of get to

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the level of someone like a Bzinski or a Kissinger to to find the people that

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know and discuss the whole game plan.