"Footage has emerged of an Israeli helicopter killing many people at an October 7 concert in Israel. The IDF basically fired on everyone fleeing that concert using helicopters. Still unconfirmed."X later added the following 'context'...
"The posted video shows IDF forces firing at the border, not near the Nova festival... The above claims are without evidence."This last quote seems somewhat disingenuous to me.
The Nova festival took place near the border. So for the 'context' providers to suggest the border area where the IDF helicopter fire was centred was NOT close where the Nova festival took place is, I think, palpably inaccurate.
Anyway, make of the video what you will.
On 16 November 2023, online Israeli daily YNet told us this:
"At 06:50, the two teams that were on standby at the base are jumped into the helicopters. In less than ten minutes they are on their way to the Gaza Strip. They have no idea what is really happening on the ground...What seems likely to me, given all of the above, is this: in the 'fog of war' the IDF may have killed a good few Israelis, mistaking them for Hamas terrorists.
'I see many cars on Route 232 standing, and some with their doors open,' recalled Lt. Col. A. 'I understand that I am going to have a dilemma here as to who is our forces and who is the enemy, if any, and who are citizens. The whole decision is now on me, there's no one to talk to.'The communication network said: 'We see a lot of terrorists, we don't know if they are terrorists, but soldiers on vans heading towards the Strip, and we are bypassing them'...Lt. Col. A. 'This is the first time I have been there I actually encountered the fact that there are loopholes in the fence, there are people crossing the fence and this is a surreal picture. Anyone who crosses the fence is an enemy. There are not even any of our forces in the area of the fence, there is nothing'...'There are terrorists, I don't know who is who'...'Mosvat Nahal Oz, there are terrorists there. Go, I don't know who is who, I don't know what these vehicles are'...It is almost impossible to operate fighter jets in our territory without greatly endangering the residents and fighters...
'While we are shooting, we see an IDF vehicle and we also see armed people entering the vehicle, the vehicle stops, comes towards the gate. And then we're happy and say, 'Okay, fine, Hina, there's a force here to take care of this.' And at the same time they direct us to another place... In retrospect, I understand that it probably wasn't our soldiers'...The burnt-out car lot from the party in Bari... It may be the first time the squadron learned about the party at all... When the Apache forces got there, there was no one to help.
'I see an insane amount of vehicles, burned... If they attacked all the outposts at the same time... then no one would have known to look to the right or left to see what was happening there'...Only at noon did the two Apache squadrons gain full strength. If only there had been a warning, things would have been different, but nothing that happened in those hours was written in the books...
The squadron commander adds: 'Someone comes up in front of me and tells me: 'I'm on the phone with a family that is in the MMD, there are terrorists inside their house... Our forces haven't had time to reach this settlement yet, and I've already run out of missiles there', which is the more accurate weaponry. I decide to shoot a cannon 30 meters from this house, a very difficult decision. I shoot so that if they are now there, they will hear the explosions inside the house, that they will realize that they know they are there, and hopefully they will get out of this house. I also tell you The truth is, it crosses my mind if I shoot at the house'...How do you shoot someone who is returning towards the border?
'Good question, and it's a super-complex dilemma'."
They may also have failed to prevent a number of deaths, having mistaken said terrorists for their own troops.
On 8 November 2023, CBC posted a video at YouTube of the 'burnt out' cars that had travelled to the Nova festival on 7 October.
These vehicles are, for the most part, utterly devastated.
Such devastation could not have been caused by rifle fire. It's possible that some of the vehicles could have ended up in this state having been subjected to attack from rocket-propelled grenades, which a few of the terrorists will, I'm sure, have had. But it seems inconceivable that the catastrophe that befell these vehicles and their occupants could not, for the most part, have been caused by the light weapons that the terrorists brought with them on that day.
So what happened to them?
I think that the extent of the damage on view can only have been caused by one thing. The heavy artillery mounted on the IDF's helicopter gunships.
I may be wrong.
But I don't think so.
How many Israelis were killed by 'friendly fire' that day?
Will THEY ever tell us?
Doubt it.
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