Joe Rogan interviewed Robert Malone on 3 January 2022.
Robert Malone: "People should think for themselves and I try really hard to give people the information and help them to think not to tell them what to think... I have physicians coming to me all the time about what they're experiencing, the same playbook is going on every continent...
I came out with an op-ed in The Washington Times in which we criticised Biden policy on vaccines and said that they should be reserved for those that need the most and not used universally...
We referred to a fantastic video that has been put out by the canadian COVID Care Alliance Group that summarises all the malfeasance and data manipulation and misinterpretation associated with the Pfizer vaccines and their clinical trials. It's a super video and um of course that's I guess that is uh interpreted as something that would cause people to become vaccine hesitant...
My position all the way through this comes off of the platform of bioethics and the importance of informed consent, so my position is that people should have the freedom of choice particularly for their children, and that in order to appropriately choose to participate in a medical experiment they have to be fully informed of the risks as well as the benefits. And so I've tried really hard to make sure that people have access to the information about those risks and potential benefits the true unfiltered academic papers and raw data etc...
The policy that's being implemented is one in which no discussion of the risks are allowed because by definition they will elicit vaccine hesitance, so it can't be discussed. But that's the fundamental background that's the backbone of informed consent so informed consent is not only not happening, it's being actively blocked...
I've also been infected twice... Once before I was infected at the end of February... I was attending a MIT conference on drug discovery and artificial intelligence, so this is pre-lockdown February 20. but it goes back further than that um there's a CIA agent that I've co-published with in the past named Michael Callahan, he was in Wuhan in the fourth quarter of 2019 he called me from Wuhan on January 4th I was currently managing a team that was focusing on drug discovery for organophosphate poisoning ergo nerve agents for DTRA, defense threat reduction agency... and he told me, Robert, 'you got to get your team spun up because we got a problem with this new virus...'
And so it was then that I turned my attention to this. Started modeling a key protein a protease inhibitor of this virus when the sequence was released on January 11th as the Wuhan seafood market virus and I've been pretty much going non-stop ever since... with drug repurposing. So, I'm the one that originally discovered famotidine as an agent um because I was self-treating myself after I got infected with agents that we'd identified through the computer modeling...
I thought I was going to die. You got to remember I was up up up on all the latest information from china and everywhere else I knew all about this virus... I've been watching the videos of people dropping in the street my lungs were burning until I took famotidine and that relieved that... It's otherwise known as Pepcid...
I work with all these folks like Peter and Pierre that I know you know"...
Joe Rogan: "Peter McCullough, Pierre Cory"...
RM: "But I haven't pushed this drug combination I just felt it was inappropriate until we got the trials running but they're now open and we've passed through the FDA screening process by the way we tried to get we had data showing that adding ivermectin further improve the combination but the FDA created such enormous roadblocks to us doing an ivermectin arm that we had to drop it and by we what I'm saying is the FDA created so much grief that the DOD decided it the juice wasn't worth the squeeze and they just dropped that arm JR: why do you think that is what do you think is going on with the pushback on Ivermectin RM: So it's not just Ivermectin, its Hydroxychloroquine. And, just to put a marker on that, there are good modeling studies that probably half a million excess deaths have happened in the United States through the intentional blockade of early treatment by the U.S. government...
Zeb Zelenko... the guy that came out with the original protocol... and was the one, by the way, that wrote the letter to Trump advocating for hydroxychloroquine... He's put together a great little video clip in which he clearly documents the conspiracy between Janet Woodcock and Rick Bright to make it so that physicians could not administer hydroxychloroquine outside of the hospital...
Rick Bright was the head of BARDA the biomedical advanced research director, which is the group that for instance funded the JNJ vaccine and operational warp speed, etc. So they're the big-ticket funder in health and human service of biodefense products...
Janet Woodcock um was head of operation warp speed for drugs and until very recently head of the FDA she is uh known as the person who kind of gets the credit let's say for the opioid crisis for her role at the FDA."
JR: "So between the two of them was there was some sort of a concerted effort to suppress the use of hydroxychloroquine?"
RM: Rick Bright in in videotaped explicitly spoken about how they conspired to cook on a strategy using emergency use authorization to make it so that hydroxychloroquine could only be administered in the hospital which, by the way, is too late for when hydroxy should be used... I know Rick quite well. I don't know what he's currently working for the Rockefeller...
All I know is they did this and Rick admits on it on videotape that he did it and he states that the reason was is that he believed there was no evidence of hydroxychloroquine being useful for this virus. Now that's false. Hydroxychloroquine was known to be effective against Sars-1... During Zika I did a lot of drug repurposing. I filed patents on the use of Hydroxy in Zika one of the reasons is because Hydroxy is one of the few molecules that have antiviral activity that are safe in pregnancy um and you remember Zika was a pregnancy issue.
So Hydroxy's been out there for a long time as having viral antiviral effects. And the other part of Rick's story that kind of doesn't make sense that there was no data on efficacy is that I was the guy that first acquired, because I had Chinese connections, the Chinese protocol for treating this virus. I got it in late February and I sent it in to my buddies at the CIA and at DTRA at the assistant secretary for preparedness and response the government had those documents when Rick made those determinations. So the assertion that there was no data on hydroxychloroquine at the time when this decision was made is just patently false, it's there!
So, what is the motivation? You're right... None of this makes sense. The only thing you know this is a journalist problem and you know the classic guidance is follow the money...
It is bizarre that Merck would come out with these explicit statements about the safety of Ivermectin. Both Ivermectin and Hydroxy are on the who list of essential medicines they have been administered for millions and millions of doses they're among the safest medicines we know when administered within this acceptable window pharmaceutical window um they the Ivermectin is even safer than Hydroxy. So Merck coming out of the blue and saying Ivermectin isn't safe is really inexplicable.
Now another thing is that I sit on the active committee for drugs as an observer. What is the active committee? This is the NIH committee that's guiding the clinical trials for these various repurposed and novel drugs. I saw. listened to, heard, witnessed the representative of Merck that's on the committee, because the committee is full of pharmaceutical representatives even though it's an NIH public committee, explicitly attack the decision for the federal government to test Ivermectin. She said there's no reason to do this now.
What's happened since then is is active sticks is still testing Ivermectin and they've had to go to a higher dose because, as we pointed out, essentially their initial trial design was designed to fail. It was a short course with inadequate levels of drug and so now they've upped it to, I think it's five days and 600 micrograms per gig, that's the current dosing in active sex but there is clearly a concerted effort on the part of multiple players in the pharmaceutical industry in concordance with the federal government to kill Ivermectin as a potential alternative early treatment strategy...
It's fairly cheap because it's easy to make and you know we you can get Ivermectin and you know at in bulk at less than a penny a dose... Uttar Pradesh as you know has crushed COVID... The virus was just ripping through Uttar Pradesh, it has almost the same population as the United States, it's huge. Dense, urban poor, all the characteristics of the stereotypes of the Indian countryside and the virus is just ripping through there and causing all kinds of death and disease. And the decision was made, out of desperation, in that province to deploy early treatments as packages widely throughout the province, and it included a number of agents the composition has not been formally disclosed...
Whatever was in those packages was rumored to include Ivermectin. But there was a specific visit of Biden to Modi and a decision was made in the Indian government not to disclose the contents of those packages that were being deployed in Uttar Pradesh... and Utter Pradesh is flatlined right now the rest of the world is yelling about Omicron and and in hospitalizations... but Utter Pradesh is still flatlined in terms of deaths.
There's a meeting between Joe Biden and Modi and... all I know is that immediately afterward there was a decision not to disclose the contents of what was being deployed in Uttar Pradesh...
I took two doses of Moderna with the second dose I developed stage three hypertension with systolic blood pressure of up to 230, I'm lucky to be alive... I've had a stress test of my aorta and my cerebral vascular system and I didn't have a stroke and I didn't tear my aorta all to shreds but... I had I had irregularities of heartbeat incredible hypertension, pot syndrome, narcolepsy, restless leg syndrome, these are all known side effects that are associated with the vaccine. They're relatively less frequent than the myocarditis in the children, in male children in particular but they're all known on the list of adverse events and it's very clear that people that have natural immunity have a much higher risk factor for this whole spectrum of adverse events"...
JR: "What we know about natural immunity is that natural immunity, at least according to that study in Israel, which is like what 2.5 million people I think, they said that it's between 6 and 13 times more effective than the vaccine!"
RM: "Six or 13 times more effective in preventing hospitalized COVID. It's more like... 27-fold better at protecting against developing the disease. Remember infection does not equal disease... That's only one of over 140 studies that document that natural immunity is superior to vaccine-induced immunity and, as a vaccinologist and an immunologist, I wouldn't expect anything different...
Most of us that are at all objective in the science world look at what's going on at the CDC aghast... The CDC... what they did with that was a very small study with intrinsic bias all over the place much, much smaller than the Israel study that you're citing, much less rigorous, less statistical power, and they pushed that out as their justification for their position concerning uh natural immunity"...
JR: "The federal government... funded this study, they did it themselves... There are many many many studies that point to the fact that natural immunity is superior... And also multiple studies that show that people who have had COVID, who get vaccinated after the fact, have a higher risk I think it's between two and four-fold... risk of adverse side effects"...
RM: "I actually said to the nurse when I took the first jab, I bragged a little bit, I usually don't, I'm usually, you know, keep it on the down-low,m I don't like to wear it on my shoulder but I did say, you know, I invented this tech. She's like, 'oh, that's really cool, can I take a selfie?'
WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IS COORDINATED MEDIA WARFARE, the level of which we have never seen before. I and my peers, who were experienced in multiple outbreaks, have never seen this level of coordinated propaganda"...
JR: "The influence on society that social media has, it's stronger now than it was two years ago. It's stronger two years ago than it was two years before, it's ramping up exponentially in some sort of a strange way that's affecting society. And then the censorship aspect of it, which is kicked in, and as you said that they're stepping in line with tech doing it with the pharmaceutical companies, doing it with the government, they're all sort of on the same page when it comes to the messaging"...
RM: "The western nations... buil(t) this new structure called the trusted news initiative that would survey all information about elections and prevent the intrusion of foreign information into the democratic process and creation of undue influence by foreign actors. Shortly after it was created there was an awareness in the pharmaceutical industry that this could be used to address a a particular devil challenge that they had, which was the pejorative label 'anti-vaxxers.'
That's also been deployed against climate skeptics, okay, so 'anti-vaxxers'... is the the label that is used to, basically, take anybody out that is raising any concerns about vaccine safety. It's the pejorative that's applied and it makes it really easy for the media to, basically, take off the table anybody that's saying something that is contrary to the interests of the really the vaccine industry...
There was a decision that this same toolkit, this same integrated, international media and high-tech organization, led by the BBC, would be pivoted to resisting vaccine misinformation and disinformation and they put out a proud press announcement last fall that this is what they're gonna do and they defined these things misinformation and disinformation as anything which was going to lead to vaccine hesitancy and which was contrary to the official statements of the World Health Organization or their respective national health organizations. SO IF CDC SAYS THE WORLD IS FLAT, THEN THE WORLD IS FLAT, AND THERE WILL BE NO DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE WORLD IS FLAT...
So whatever the CDC or Tony Fauci or Tedros etc. says is truth by definition and any information or discussion which is contrary to that truth will be suppressed, it will be deleted; and those people that are are expressing these opinions that would lead to vaccine hesitancy, which to some eyes would be informed consent, and decisions by an individual that they believe the risk benefit ratio doesn't matter, doesn't make sense to them... that information will not be allowed and those people that are spreading that information will not be allowed to interact in the public sphere, in social media...
It starts by understanding the trusted news initiative... and the censorship in which I link to both the BBC's trusted news initiative website so you can see what they have to say and a video that describes the trusted news initiative from my point of view... Somebody who that's been on the receiving end of the trusted news initiative...
But it doesn't explain the global coordination, because TNI is mostly western and it doesn't cover a lot of the other, Latin America, for instance, or Spain or Israel, and the only way that I can understand how all of this messaging, censorship, what it really is, is canceling. Bobby Kennedy makes the point that the first real example of cancel culture that we can track is Tony Fauci canceling the esteemed virologist Peter Duisberg because he was raising questions about the origin of HIV... One of the best virologists of his generation, full stop....
This cancel culture, as it's played by NIH and by Tony in the emails that came out recently when you have Cliff Lane, Tony Fauci and the director of the NIH, Francis Collins... coming out and saying that they're gonna ridicule and destroy fringe epidemiologists. And what was their sin, these fringe epidemiologists, that warranted a concerted effort on the part of the federal government to destroy them? Their sin was raising questions about the effectiveness of vaccine lockdowns, okay?
And who were these fringe epidemiologists as stated by Francis Collins, who by the way has no background in epidemiology or public health, okay? He's a sequencing guy that's his claim to fame as the human genome project and the cystic fibrosis transmembrane regulatory protein he has no background in immunology, no background vaccinology, no training in public health, but who are these three fringe epidemiologists well they happen to be full professors from obscure universities; Oxford, Harvard, and Stanford, okay?
They were warning about lockdowns in the Great Barrington Declaration that's what prompted that... They came out with a specific statement that these lockdowns were going to cause more harm than help which was contrary to the messaging that was being put input out by Tony and so Tony decided that they had to be destroyed. And then you had Francis Collins recently coming on Fox News... saying that, if we had followed their advice, millions of people would have died. This is the fallback anytime you criticize these guys. What they say is, 'oh, you're killing people!' I mean they do it to me too."
JR: "So, if they had just done what Sweden had done and some other countries where they didn’t institute lockdowns and they sort of let people just live their lives and make their own choices they were saying that millions of people would have died?"
RM: "So it would be so it seems."
JR: "But time has shown that Sweden actually had a more effective take on the virus. I mean it was highly criticized in the beginning people were really concerned that they weren't taking it seriously enough... Their mortality rate is lower than most places their infection rate is lower than most places and it didn't do the devastating economic damage and the devastating damage to children that were forced to isolate and not be with their friends and not go to school and not socialize."
RM: "The Israeli people are very compliant with their government and the government has a financial deal with Pfizer, okay, and they only have Pfizer vaccine, and they're now on jab number four. There's a natural experiment that's occurring in the Palestinian territory in the surrounding states. The Palestinian territory does not have that level of vaccine uptake at all. The mortality in the surrounding states in the Palestinian authority is substantially less from this virus than the mortality in Israel...
This is akin to this mystery sorry of what's going on in central Africa and the malaria belt where you have really low levels of mortality... In general the Israeli population is a little bit older than the Palestinian territory on average, so, that's a lower risk neither one of them are associated with high rates of mortality of morbidity of obesity...
One of the major variables in Africa is that in that malaria belt people generally aren't fat. They happen to also be taking Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine for the indigenous parasites that they have to deal with...
We have this ntensively vaccinated cohort in Israel, and in much much less vaccinated cohorts in the surrounding states and you can look it up on world of meter you don't have to, believe me, you know your audience is smart enough they can go on world of meter and look it up and look at the mortality and morbidity in these different countries and figure it out for themselves...
There's something like a three thousand dollar basically death benefit to a hospital if it can be claimed to be COVID. There's a financial incentive to call somebody COVID positive the CDC made a determination in year one this is why all of our baseline data is junk."
JR: What is the financial incentive to say that they're COVID positive? That's why the PCR cycles are ramped up so high?...
RM: "I can tell you that there the hospitals receive a bonus from the government, I think it's like three thousand bucks if someone is hospitalized and able to be declared COVID positive. They also receive a bonus, I think the total is something like 30,000 in incentive if somebody gets put on the vent, then they get a bonus if somebody is declared dead with COVID. Okay, so they have an incentive at the front end to declare somebody COVID, a COVID case.
The CDC made the determination that they were going to make a core assumption if PCR positive the and you die that is death due to COVID, and so the extreme example just to to show the absurdity um if the patient comes in with a bullet hole of the head and they do a nose swab and they come up PCR positive they're determined to have died from Covid when in fact they died from lead poisoning"...
JR: "So that it really is true that if someone has a gunshot wound and they're dying of that gunshot wound and you check them for Covid and if they're COVID positive and they die they marked it off as a COVID death?"
RM: "That is a that is by definition from the CDC that was a decision that was made early on."
JR: "That seems insane."
RM: "That, there is, that there is, that's why so many of us are so much in arms up at arms and and I'm really pretty aggravated about what's going on is all the way through this the information. Let me put it this way Joe; Part of the reason, I know you're somebody who is really committed to bringing everybody together and the idea that we're really one America um we're one people we shouldn't be divided like this"…
RM: "We've been divided in this way in and it's all been politicized and the data have been so thoroughly manipulated that it's hard for any of us to make sense out of it and all the way through our government at least I can't speak to great Britain or Germany but our government has had a series of checkpoints where they have a job to do and I know this because this is what i do for a living, right? I do regulatory affairs and clinical development. We wouldn't be having all of this conflict about what is true if the FDA had done its job. What the FDA didn't do was force the pharmaceutical manufacturers to do their job.
Now, we can we can wrap around you know, well, maybe, it was just they were all in a rush we were all panicked but the bottom line was they didn't do their job and they didn't force pharma to do its job and they didn't employ the standard requirements for testing and verification that pharma was doing its job that I would expect to experience as a clinical researcher on one of my studies, okay? What's gone on with Pfizer if the whistleblower comments hold true and for instance the Maddie Degary case, this young woman who was listed as having a stomach ache that participated in the Pfizer trials when in fact what she had was a seizure and she's now wheel bound wheelchair-bound with a nasogastric tube, one of a thousand subjects."
JR: "This is a 13-year-old girl right that was a part of the study and they wrote it down as what?"
RM: "Gastric distress."
JR: "That's literally what it says in terms of the adverse effect, gastric distress? Like what is gastric distress?"
RM: "Stomach ache."
JR: "That's it? But, what, how do they account for all the other injuries."
RM: "They don't they take her off the study"
JR: "How's that possible? That's totally unethical. Who's signing off on that? How are they allowed to do that?"
RM: "So the way the rules work in regulatory affairs so this is law right this is regulatory affairs law in common practice at the FDA and globally there's all kinds of treaties and things that regulate how these things are supposed to be done. The rule is it used to be that a pharmaceutical company could kind of offload all the liability for bad stuff that might happen in a clinical trial and be mismanaged, etc.. On to the performer, the subcontractor used to be that pharma actually did the trials themselves and then they found it was cheaper more efficient and they could push off their liability if they engaged companies like I've been working for for decades contract research organizations, clinical contract research organizations.
And so that was done for a while and if anything that went bad in the trial then the pharma could say, 'oh, it wasn't us it was those guys.' Now over the last few years the FDA got wise to that and they made policy that the responsibility vests with the sponsor that's fancy regulatory speak for it it's pharma owns it. Okay, so you ask the question whose responsibility is it to ensure that the data isn't contaminated and manipulated the answer is Pfizer.
JR: "Wow! So they're responsible for the data they're allowed to say that this was just some sort of a gastric distress."
RM: "And the job of the FDA always is to ferret out monkey business which happens all the time whether intentional or unintentional and there's all kinds of ways you can craft clinical trials and craft clinical trials study reports, final study reports, to hide the bad stuff and highlight the good stuff...
There's all kinds of financial incentives to make bad stuff go away and highlight good stuff... Just to bring it back around to our first topic... I put in that twitter post... all the different ways that the Pfizer data was manipulated."
JR: "The fact that that is grounds for being removed from Twitter is so astonishing... It blows my mind that that's the number one platform for distributing information right now and that things like that are happening there cause it is. I mean, it's essentially a number one that would and Facebook, I don't know which one's bigger, but for distributing information"...
RM: "Looping back I talked about the interconnectedness at the board level between Pfizer and Thompson Reuters... Thompson Reuters has become the fact-checker of choice for determining, you know, I quote 'fact-checker'... Thompson Reuters is tied to Pfizer, they have common corporate ownership and they are the fact-checker of Twitter now they're integrated. So it's Thompson Reuters who's making the decision, which has connections to Pfizer, about what information will be allowed to be discussed on Twitter."
JR: "That is crazy, that it's so crazy to even hear I and I don't know how we ever pull out of this mess I mean I think we are at a 45-degree downward angle headed into a mountain, I really do. It's so strange to me that no one's up in arms about this other than a few people that have been censored, a few people that have these uh opposing viewpoints that are you know deemed to be something that can't be discussed."
RM: "Well, it's, Joe, it's even deeper than that, okay? Then there's the hunting of physicians. You know Peter Mccullough is the textbook example of hunting physicians right? The guy is $150,000 in debt right now, in the hole, in trying to defend his medical license. This is one of the most highly published authors in the world, he's an exceptional researcher"...
JR: "The guys published more in his field than any other physician in history."
RM: "And Baylor's trying to take him out. And it's not only Baylor, it's some entity outside of Baylor that's come in and is financing the attacks on him.
But just to bring it home... the other day, three days before Christmas, I get a package from my licensing agency which I'm licensed through the state of Maryland... and it is a complaint that's been filed against me, I have six days to respond. Basically, I end up having to respond on Christmas day to this attack claiming that I should lose my medical license. And the citations are that I didn't actually invent mRNA vaccines... claims that I didn't graduate from Harvard medical school which I did, okay so I have to respond to all this stuff now I'm going through it and and it's just false, false, false, false, all coming and and pulled a bunch of stuff off Twitter and Linkedin and send it in and saying well this is the reason why this guy should lose his license because he is responsible for millions of deaths. He said it straight out, okay? I'm responsible for millions of deaths because of what I've said on social media.
Now who is it that's filing this it turns out it's the director of recruitment and external affairs of this hospital in Maui. This guy felt that it was necessary to send this little package of happiness right before Christmas to my licensing board to try to get my license taken away that what we're seeing across the United States and across the world is it's the hospitals and the hospitalists that are attacking outside physicians...
I don't know what's making them do this. It's crazy, okay? Never been done before, right? We went and and did a presentation in Alaska and the same thing was being done for the physicians that came out and spoke about early treatment in Alaska and, fortunately, the Alaska licensing board put out a very terse statement that they don't want to get involved in politics in this kind of uh tit-for-tat and that this is outside of of their role...
Hospitals are incentivized to to treat COVID patients the thing that ties all this little part of this story together, including the suppression through the government of early treatment, hospitals are incentivized financially to treat COVID patients. If COVID patients are being treated outside of the hospital and prevented from going to the hospital, such as the case in the imperial valley, where Brian Tyson, George Freed have saved thousands and thousands of lives of indigenous Latinos that are coming across the border and working the fields. I mean, they're they're breaking their backs to save the poor. Amazing story there with early treatments and I guess they're left alone because they're in the imperial valley, nobody cares they're all poor, but in these urban environments there's all these incentives for hospitals to treat COVID patients and if people are giving treatments. that are keeping those people out of the hospitals then they're not getting that revenue...
Early treatment keeps people out of the hospital and that hospitals have financial incentives including death incentives... These that are doing the attacking are almost universally hospital administrators and hospitalists... By hospitalists I mean hospital-based physicians.
A recent paper out of Hong Kong... myocarditis in boys hospitalized... saying the myocarditis was so bad after vaccination, and these are all verified post vaccination, the myocarditis was so bad... the hospital incidence rate is 1-in-2,700. Now there's all kinds of hand waving that, 'oh, myocarditis is mild and they recover from it'... in fact, the historic incidence of death, post myocarditis, is about 27%. Now the assertion is, 'well, this is a different kind of myocarditis and therefore it's not going to kill these kids or young adults.' Okay, but that's being said in the absence of data, it's pure speculation...
This person asked me, 'Robert, you're the inventor of this tech, you're a vaccinologist, why are you speaking out?@ This was the whole topic of the Atlantic monthly attack article. You know, why has this person become a vaccine skeptic?... The journalist, a fascinating young man, he previously publishes, basically, on woke issues in The Chronicle of Higher Education, this is his first big article. He was clearly hired, and they explicitly say, the article was funded by the Robert Wood Johnson foundation, the Zuckerberg chan initiative, okay? Robert Wood Johnson is the major shareholder in J&J, and Zuckerberg Chan, of course, is Facebook, okay?
So Facebook and Zuckerberg Chan have funded this attack article by this guy that normally writes about wokeness in The Journal of Higher Education, and he was totally obsessed over this question: 'Robert, why are you saying these things? You must have some financial incentive! There must be some reason why you're doing this?'...
I told him repeatedly, 'because it's the right thing to do'... The thing is. I think I'm maybe the only one that has been involved deeply in the development of this tech that doesn't have a financial stake in it so, for me, the reason is that what's happening is not right. It's destroying my profession, it's destroying the practice of medicine worldwide it's destroying public health in medicine I'm a vaccinologist I've spent 30 years developing vaccine a stupid amount of education learning how to do it and what the rules are and for me I'm personally offended by watching my discipline get destroyed for no good reason at all except apparently financial incentives and, I don't know, political ass covering"...
JR: "There's a huge number of dysmenorrhea and metametroraja... alterations in menses in women... With menses we mean menstrual cycles, women going to menopause very young. Like I know a girl who's 36 who got the vaccine hasn't had her period in eight months."
RM: "And then there are the women who are post-menopausal that suddenly start bleeding...
I'm in the business, it's basically the part of what I do, is like a detective. figuring out, because I'm trained in pathology, why is this happening? What are the things that connect these things? So what is it that drives menstruation? The answer is, the ovary. The ovary is the controller, okay, through hormones and ovulation? What did we learn early on from the Pfizer data package, which, by the way, when that was disclosed by Byron Bridle, from Japan, and sent to me, was the first thing that really lit me up and let me know that something here was rotten, okay? And when I got that I picked out, as Byron had done, I was given the task of independently evaluating it...
The fats that package the RNA, that let it slip into your cells, it's a synthetic chemical positively charged molecule. It's a fat with a charge on the end, it goes to the ovary at a very high rate, like 11% of the lipids. Now this wasn't supposed to happen, it was supposed to stay in the arm where it got jabbed but it doesn't, it goes all over the body, and it goes to two places that are really kind of anomalous, bone marrow and ovaries.
Now the overarching signal is really clear because it doesn't happen in testes. So now you got a molecule synthetic molecule going to an organ, the ovary, that controls menstruation in a non-clinical model... and, subsequently, it's deployed widely in humans and you have this phenomena of alteration in menstrual cycle.
Now one of the things that was fascinating I was asked to testify to the Hasidic Jew Rabbinical court in New York... The rabbis in the Hasidic jew community carefully monitor... the menstrual cycle of the fertile women in their congregations, because there is strict guidance about cleanliness and intercourse... and they all knew that these menstrual cycles were being disrupted all the time and for them this was a major crisis because it meant that if you're if you're in the Hasidic community increasing the size of the population of Hasidic Jews... it's centrally important to them and this was a major threat to reproductive health in their communities.
Now they they took all this testimony, they thought about it and they came out with a clear statement that children should not be vaccinated. This has the power of law in this community should not be vaccinated in adults, it's strongly discouraged, and part of the reason is because of these alterations in reproduction and again the point what's the common variable is the ovary.
This is why I say, in my little statement that's gone all over the world, this little four-minute clip that's kind of gone viral and triggered governments to attack me, now like Israel and Spain and Italy,in the same systematic pattern of you know, trying to demean me and delegitimize me but that's why I say... think twice about giving these jabs to your kids. Among other things, your girls are born with all the eggs they will ever have and these lipids are going to the ovaries and they appear to be affecting menstruation in some way...
The spike protein is probably causing all these problems with people who have caught COVID and also people who are getting the vaccine...
JR: This T cell suppression are there any studies on the amount of time that it takes before your system rebalances itself post jab and is it a cumulative like if you're dealing with three shots or four shots?
RM: I'm sorry this is the obscenity for me of this whole, well, we're going to give four shots because we don't really know but we know we need to do something... People that aren't well trained, given a powerful technology or tool, will abuse it and overuse it. In this case there's multiple reasons not to do the multiple jabs. The simplest one for everybody to understand is when your son develops seasonal allergies to ragweed pollen or whatever and it's so bad that he can't go to school his eyes are running he can't play in sports, whatever you're like, 'oh, we got to do something about this. I'm going to take him to a rheumatologist an allergist and see what they can do.' Well they do a bunch of tests and they say, 'oh, your son is allergic to ragweed pollen,' or whatever the thing is, okay?
What do they do? Well, they give him shots. What are those shots? They're high doses of antigen that are administered repeatedly to your child and what it does is induces something that as immunologists we call high zone tolerance. High zone tolerance basically amounts to an ability by giving multiple injections at high levels of antigen to shut down t cells against in an antigen specific fashion so there's that.
The other thing with the multiple jabs is that these are multiple jabs that are mismatched. They don't fit."
JR: "Can I pause for a second before you continue so you're saying that by if like if someone is allergic to things and they go to an allergist and they start getting shots- those shots shut down t-cell response?"
RM: "Correct... It's been documented at least two cases when they were reported deaths from Omicron... they got picked up in the legacy media and circulated as 'oh my God, it's going to kill us again!' More FEAR PORN. Then people went again like they did with the ivermectin story. Remember about the hospital, it was all full of ivermectin toxicity and then someone bothered to call the hospital. Same story. Sorry, nope, those weren't Omicron deaths. Just something that got reported and amplified in the legacy media. So, regardless, the mortality of Omicron is remarkably low I think we can all agree on that."
JR: "It's essentially like a cold."
RM: "That's the list of symptoms from Omicron published in Nature I think recently are pretty much 100 percent overlap with common cold...
It is absolutely looking like Omicron is a mild variant... In the case of Omicron... the base reproduction coefficient is the range of seven to ten, Okay that is wicked high... we are all going to get infected. Whether you use masks or not use social distancing or not, unless you're going to go live on your trailer and not talk to anybody when you pass them, you're going to get infected... And then as if that isn't bad enough we've got the Federal government monkeying around with availability of the um monoclonal antibodies...
It's kind of being covered up, it's starting to be covered by the press but they're not going back to the cause. Okay, remember I said that there was a group in the UK Imperial College didn't give the specifics before there's a group in the UK that does modeling and they came out with some modeling projections that basically the entire UK hospital system was going to be inundated with Omicron shortly before Christmas time.
And a lot of us looked at that and went, 'yeah, those are the same guys that have predicted that we're going to have you know millions and millions and millions of dead and and they're going to be bodies stacked up, and you know, coolers in the UK. And it sure looks like they may have overshot again. The CDC seems to have taken those modeling projections and those models and they put out you remember in mid-December right before Christmas, Merry Christmas, oh you're all going to get infected by COVID and and it's going to sweep through and we're going to have 80 percent of COVID by this time of this month."
JR: "Well how about that ridiculous press release from the White House that said we're the winter of the unvaccinated death you're gonna experience a winter of death and overwhelming hospitalizations."
RM: "All I can say is that the political genius behind that should be taken out in the behind in the woodshed and given a good whupping because that was just horrible political messaging."
JR: "Horrible and in the terms in terms of Omicron so inaccurate."
RM: "Yeah, but it doesn't matter and that's that's that's the core thing of of this chronic angst of what the heck is going on this doesn't make any sense at all...
OUR GOVERNMENT IS OUT OF CONTROL ON THIS AND THEY ARE LAWLESS. THEY COMPLETELY DISREGARD BIOETHICS. THEY COMPLETELY DISREGARD THE FEDERAL COMMON RULE. THEY HAVE BROKEN ALL THE RULES THAT I KNOW OF THAT I'VE BEEN TRAINED ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. THESE MANDATES OF AN EXPERIMENTAL VACCINE ARE EXPLICITLY ILLEGAL. THEY ARE EXPLICITLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE NUREMBERG CODE. THEY'RE EXPLICITLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE BELMONT REPORT. THEY ARE FLAT OUT ILLEGAL AND THEY DON'T CARE. And the only thing standing between us, and it's too late for many of our colleagues including my, you know, the unfortunate colleagues in the DoD. Hopefully, we're going to be able to stop them before they take our kids."
JR: "What's wrong with the DoD?"
RM: "The mandated vaccines for everyone in the DoD... The CDC was putting out in the New York Times and the press and all amplified... we're going to have 70 or 80 percent uh Omicron in the population... the only actual data they had was up to about December 4th as I recall, and it showed only a tiny fraction of omicron in the population but then they applied their mathematical models that they apparently got from Imperial College and they said oh the curve is going to look like this and therefore that's where we're going to be at this point in time and therefore we're going to have 70 percent infection and the press all picked it up and they just assumed that that was based on real data, not modeled data okay.
What I'm hearing from docs in the field... is that Delta is still dominant and these are hospitalists and people treating disease and so they're seeing a skewed population but it's important to remember that when the CDC says those kinds of numbers they're talking about incidents that is that is the moment you know how many have actually been infected at that slice of time. But what you see in the hospitals and this is something that press misses all the time so you're hearing all this fear porn about how the hospitals have filled up in New York City and blah blah blah blah, okay?
OMICRON CAUSES A SHORT-TERM, LIMITED ILLNESS.... The CDC overestimated... how aggressively Omicron was going to move into the U.S. population... It's not moving in as fast as they had been projecting... The geniuses in our public health system said, 'oh, no, Omicron based on this modeling data is going to be moving into the population! It's going to dominate things! We need to pull the monoclonals that are Delta specific and only administer only allow people to use the monoclonals that are Omicron specific because it's going to drive further evolution otherwise. I guess that's their logic"...
JR: "SO THE GOVERNMENT HAS LITERALLY STOPPED THE DISTRIBUTION OF MEDICINE, EFFECTIVE MEDICINE, FOR A DISEASE THAT EXISTS CURRENTLY. When has that ever happened before?"
RM: "HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE AND IVERMECTIN."
JR: "Yeah but on this level. Where like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin were off-label uses. This is something that has emergency use authorization. This is wild."
RM: "It is. Are they brain dead?"
JR: "Are they trying to just are they encourage vaccination? Is that what all this is a money grab? Okay what is that?"...
RM: "WHEN YOU SEE THIS KIND OF DECOUPLING OF A PUBLIC POLICY FROM LOGIC THEN IT CAUSES THINKING PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF TO SAY WHAT THE HELL'S GOING ON HERE? And then we go down the rabbit hole, is it this, that or the other thing. One of the things in that spectrum of what's going on is that the emergency use authorizations are predicated on policy determinations that were in a state of emergency. Those are now two years old. They're expiring. I'm not saying this is what's going on in their head but THERE IS ANOTHER PERVERSE INCENTIVE HERE TO AMPLIFY THE FEAR PORN and to amplify, if you buy into the hypothesis, that, for some reason, THERE ARE INCENTIVES FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO MAINTAIN THE STATE OF EMERGENCY, that is one explanation given that those declarations are expiring and will have to be re-implemented. Because, if they're not, then all of this emergency use authorization vanishes like dust."
JR: "So are you saying, are you implying that perhaps one of the reasons why they're removing monoclonal antibodies is TO ENHANCE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SICK?"
RM: "I'm saying IT IS IN THE SPECTRUM OF THE RANGE OF POSSIBLE, JUST THE SAME AS THE WITHHOLDING OF EARLY TREATMENTS IS INEXPLICABLE."
JR: "And this is inexplicable in that WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE VERY EFFECTIVE. I HAVE PERSONAL EVIDENCE THAT THEY'RE VERY EFFECTIVE. THEY WORKED GREAT ON ME. THE FACT THAT THEY'RE REMOVING THIS, AND THAT YOU WOULD EVEN CONSIDER THAT THE REASON WHY THEY'RE DOING IT IS TO EXTEND THE EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION, IS INSANE! That's terrifying."
RM: IT'S HARD FOR ME TO RECONCILE THE BEHAVIOR OF THE GOVERNMENT AND ITS PUBLIC HEALTH DECISIONS WITH THE DATA. AND IT'S LIKE THERE'S TWO BINS. IS IT INCOMPETENCE OR MALEFICIENCE. IS THERE SOME ULTERIOR POLITICAL MOTIVE OR ARE THEY JUST DUMB STUPID?
JR: IF THERE'S SOME POLITICAL MOTIVE, IF THAT'S WRITTEN ANYWHERE, SOMEONE'S GOING TO JAIL! I mean, if that if that comes out if that somehow another gets leaked Jesus fucking Christ that's scary"...
RM: "For me, the disclosure of emails that CLIFF LANE, TONY FAUCI, AND FRANCIS COLLINS ACTIVELY CONSPIRED TO DESTROY ANY DISCUSSION OF THE APPROPRIATENESS OF LOCKDOWN STRATEGIES, AND THE MAINSTREAM PRESS HARDLY COVERS IT, and there are no consequences. The document trail having to do with the gain of function research, and the implication of NIH and, by the way, DTRA, in that, having absolutely no consequences for anybody, WE'RE IN AN ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH TRUTH AND CONSEQUENCES ARE FUNGIBLE. THIS IS MODERN MEDIA MANAGEMENT AND WARFARE. THE TRUTH IS WHAT THOSE THAT ARE MANAGING THE TRUSTED NEWS INITIATIVE SAY IT IS...
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE IINTERNATIONAL ALLIANCE OF PHYSICIANS AND SCIENTISTS, WE'RE OVER 16,000 PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, PHYSICIANS AND SCIENTISTS... WE ARE GOBSMACKED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND WE ARE SHUT DOWN, CENSORED, DEMEANED, FILL IN THE BLANK, ALL OVER THE WORLD."
JR: "And over a period of two years the world's completely changed in that regard."
RM: And they're taking our licenses and license to practice medicine because we are speaking about these matters... Physicians at FLCCC in senior positions highly, like Peter Mccullough, people at the at the culmination of exceptional careers. Paul Merrick an exceptional physician by any standards, run out of his hospital demeaned destroyed, actively attacked, trying to take his license...
PEOPLE ARE LOSING FAITH IN THE WHOLE SYSTEM. THEY'RE LOSING FAITH IN THE SCIENTIFIC ENTERPRISE, THEY'RE LOSING FAITH IN OUR GOVERNMENT. They're losing faith in the vaccine enterprise. I mean, what is going to be the long-term consequences of public health when you have a large fraction of the population who wasn't anti-vaxxer... before, they're now saying, 'oh my god! If this is how these people make decisions I don't want anything to do with it. I certainly don't want it jabbed into my kid'!"...
JR: "One of the more disturbing things about this pandemic is how PEOPLE HAVE JUST DECIDED, BECAUSE THEY'RE SCARED AND BECAUSE THEY WANT A SOLUTION, THAT THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES HAVE THEIR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART and that they're not these machines that are designed to make money. And they sell drugs and the drugs are often beneficial but THEIR MAIN GOAL IS TO MAKE MONEY AND, IF THEY CAN, FUDGE THE DATA, IF THEY CAN, MOVE THE NUMBERS AROUND, IF THEY CAN, DELETE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES."
RM: "PFIZER IS ONE OF THE MOST CRIMINAL PHARMACEUTICAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE WORLD BASED ON THEIR PAST LEGAL HISTORY AND FINES. WHAT DO THOSE FINES INCLUDE? BRIBING PHYSICIANS OKAY IT IS A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS IN THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY ABOUT MISBEHAVIOR. THEY ARE NOT GROUNDED IN THE ETHICAL PRINCIPLES THAT YOU AND I, AS AVERAGE PEOPLE, BELIEVE IN. THEY DON'T LIVE IN THAT WORLD.
AS YOU APPROPRIATELY POINT OUT THEY ARE ABOUT PROFIT-RETURN ON INVESTMENT. AND FURTHERMORE THE OVERLORDS THAT OWN THEM BLACKROCK, VANGUARD, STATE STREET ETC. THESE LARGE MASSIVE FUNDS THAT ARE COMPLETELY DECOUPLED FROM NATION STATES, HAVE NO MORAL CORE, THEY HAVE NO MORAL PURPOSE. THEIR ONLY PURPOSE IS RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
And that is the core problem here. That and the fact that we as a society have become grossly fragmented through social media, electronic appliances, the stress of what we've experienced, and this leads into this whole issue of MASS FORMATION PSYCHOSIS that Matthias Desmond at the university of Ghent has promoted. That for many of us when Matthias, as you know psychologist and statistician, interesting combination, made public a lot of us as we listened to Matthias we said oh that makes sense, that that was like the brain that what happened when I encountered the Trusted News Initiative I said, oh.
I don't know if you saw the Brett Weinstein podcast with me and Steve Kirsch where that lit this whole fire all over the world. Brett ends with the with the basically the question... of... how does this happen? How do we have this emergent phenomena? The how question, right? And, you know, behind the how question, is the why question. That the how question of A THIRD OF THE POPULATION BASICALLY BEING HYPNOTIZED AND TOTALLY WRAPPED UP IN WHATEVER TONY FAUCI IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA FEEDS THEM, WHATEVER CNN TELLS THEM IS TRUE...
The other day I was looking through New York Times recent articles about Omicron and pediatrics in preparation for this and for making some slideshows and um and I saw this headline in the New York Times um epidemiologist and a vaccinologist and the title was how you should think about children and Omicron. IT WAS BLATANTLY SAYING 'THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD THINK - WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU HOW TO THINK, OKAY?' People kind of got to get that in their head that's the world we're in right now.
Now what Matthias Desmond has has shared with us brilliant insight is another one of those, 'aha now that part makes sense' which is that this comes from basically European intellectual inquiry into what the heck happened in Germany in the 20s and 30s you know very intelligent highly educated population and they went barking mad. And how did that happen? The answer is MASS FORMATION PSYCHOSIS.
When you have a society that has become decoupled from each other and has free-floating anxiety in a sense that things don't make sense we can't understand it, and then their attention gets focused by a leader or series of events on one small point, just like hypnosis, they literally become hypnotized and can be led anywhere and one of the aspects of that phenomenon is the people that they identify as their leaders, the ones typically that come in and say, 'YOU HAVE THIS PAIN AND I CAN SOLVE IT FOR YOU! I AND I ALONE CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM FOR YOU,' THEN THEY WILL FOLLOW THAT PERSON THROUGH HELL. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THEY LIE TO THEM OR WHATEVER THE DATA ARE IRRELEVANT AND FURTHERMORE ANYBODY WHO QUESTIONS THAT NARRATIVE IS TO BE IMMEDIATELY ATTACKED THEY ARE THE OTHER. This is central to MASS FORMATION PSYCHOSIS and this is what has happened we had all those conditions.
You remember back before 2019 everybody was complaining the world doesn't make sense, blah, blah, blah, and we're all isolated from each other, we're all on our little tools we're not connected socially anymore except through social media and then this thing happened and everybody focused on it. That is how mass formation psychosis happens and that is what's happened here. Now there's ways to get out of it um Matthias's recommendation is you got to get people to realize that WHAT WE'VE GOT IS A SITUATION OF GLOBAL TOTALITARIANISM...
I think that this insight of Matthias Desmond is really central to kind of making sense of all of this crazy. WE GOT A WORLD IN WHICH THE PRESS IS INCENTIVIZED TO PUSH A STORYLINE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL CONTROLLED BY THE SAME LARGE FUNDS THAT PFIZER IS, AND SO IS TECH. I don't know how we're going to get out of it"...
JR: "I think one way we're going to get out of it is by realizing what it is and by the way you just explained it and the way Peter Mccullough explained it and he was on the podcast as well this mass formation psychosis that we're currently experiencing most people are unaware of this even happening all these events take place and it's this perfect storm of the social media aspect of it, the the fact that we are disconnected, the COVID, the separation, the isolation from society, the lockdowns...
And that's one of the things that I find very bizarre about the tribal aspect of this is that people want me to get vaccinated and like my friends who've been vaccinated want me to join the team, like go ahead get the tattoo, like what are you saying? And I'm, like, I've gone through the virus, I have immunity, I also have antibodies, I just checked them last week! Like, I could show you the test a matter of fact I have it right here. There it is."
RM: "And I had to be tested when I came in the front door at your shop here."
JR: "Yeah, we test everybody, but the point being is it doesn't make any sense for me to get vaccinated but they want me to join."
RM: "It's worse than that it puts you at higher risk okay they're asking you to take more risk for your health in order to join their club."
JR: "That's what it is and that's what it is and it's a tribal formation and it's people who don't have personal sovereignty and people who uh aren't confident with standing by their own thoughts and objectively analyzing things outside of an ideology outside of the tribe. Those people are very susceptible right now and those are more common than not"...
RM: "I've been through the legal grind I don't want to sue anybody frankly but it just sucks the blood out of you um not to mention your financial resources. I mean it's just a ugly process. I hate it but um there's two hills that are willing I'm willing to die on one is stopping the jabs and the children and one is you know resisting the erosion of free speech. Which is the fundamental principle on which our democracy, our society, civilized western culture is built on.
I like to say when I give rallies do you remember back a couple of years ago when you felt sorry for the people in the People's Republic of China because their internet was filtered, they weren't allowed free speech, their government told them what to do and think? Okay now here we are."
JR: "Wake up it's coming. If we give in to this, we give in to vaccine passports, and having an app on your phone that shows everything you're doing in terms of your medical history, and they've even offered people extra credit there was a article on yahoo about having access to your browser history and they they framed it in this very positive way that having access to your browser in history may allow you to receive extra credit so you would be available you you'd have credit available to buy a home or a car."
RM: "So bingo okay we already know what social credit systems feel like um we call it our credit rating agencies, okay and you know what those guys do it doesn't matter whether or not if it's on your record doesn't matter whether or not you did it or what the extenuating circumstances were it's in their algorithm and you will get your score and your score basically will determine the tax on your access to credit in the form of the interest that you pay on the money that they have been given by the Federal government.
That's the way this ecosystem works um they get that money at a huge discount and then they decide how worthy you are to receive it if you want to have credit and so if you want to understand a little tiny version of the social credit system it's right there in your credit score."
JR: "I think the only thing that helps us here is that this may be the one subject where everyone loses. People on the left, people on the right, people in the center everyone loses if they impart a social credit system if there is some sort of social credit app that you have to carry around on your phone that determines where you're allowed to go what you're allowed to do we're all going to lose."
RM: So we're touching on some deep stuff about the kids and forgive me for an unabashed promotion for the unity project which I serve as chief medical and regulatory officer for so that's unityprojectonline.com. We're totally focused on the kids and if you go on that site you'll see a podcast that I did with a pediatric psychiatrist out of LA and a pediatric cardiologist who's also a PhD in vascular inflammation, Kurt Millham, and I got those two guys on to talk about WHAT'S HAPPENING TO OUR CHILDREN, IN PARTICULAR, THE PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE OF THESE LOCKDOWNS, THIS MASK USE, THE SCHOOL POLICIES, THE BULLYING OF CHILDREN WHO ARE UNVACCINATED, THE PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE IS HUGE. WE'RE HAVING A WORLDWIDE EPIDEMIC OF SUICIDE IN CHILDREN. WE ARE HAVING A HUGE SURGE OF DRUG ABUSE IN ADOLESCENTS. WE'RE HAVING DEMONSTRABLE DROPS IN IQ AND FUNDAMENTAL DEVELOPMENTAL MILESTONES IN THE VERY YOUNG, LIKE 20 IQ POINTS...
We're raising a generation of children in that have been blocked from their ability because their brains are developing extremely rapidly at this age the ability for their brains to assimilate the information necessary for them to become functional citizens and parents. We're destroying it without a second thought and the damage is going to last for generations.
And, as if that's not bad enough, we're allowing the state to insert itself into the family and make decisions by mandating vaccination. This is why his these childhood vaccines mandates are obscene we're setting up a situation in which children are going to see peers who have been vaccine damaged as a consequence of the policies that their teachers and their government have forced on them.
The damage here is going to be with us for generations... No one seems to care. No one talks to children. There was a big breakthrough we all celebrated a week ago. Face the Nation on the annual roundup of stories that have been under-reported, one of the speakers got up journalist and said to the other group, one of the most underreported stories has been the damage that's happened to our children."
JR: "I saw that yeah."
RM: "And did you see what happened with other journalists no nobody said a word. They moved on. It was hardly covered in the media.!
JR: "Well she even glossed over the damage by the vaccines."
RM: "Agreed. How could she speak about the vaccines? I suspect she may lose her job she's not going to be invited back on that program again. I mean how could she speak about the damage of the vaccines?... Insanely dangerous to speak truth to power right now...
Often it's the nurses that are able to speak, for some reason, the nurses are disclosing things that they're seeing in their hospitals and the physicians are all shutting up. Is it because they have financial incentives or because they're all owned because they have such debt burdens? I don't know. But the nurses are speaking out and they're saying, 'hey we're seeing strokes and heart attacks and these other types of problems that are known to be associated with the jabs!' ...
We know that the deaths are happening... Excuses are made about the sudden deaths in high-performing athletes that are being observed all over the world, particularly in footballers, where they're just suddenly dropping. Is it because they've been infected or they because they've been jabbed?...
If it's from the vaccines, the thing about the vaccines is... you know, we have this principle we used to, of 'do no harm' and, if a virus naturally infects you and you have a damage from it, I haven't caused that damage as a physician.
If I'm recommending that you take a drug an intervention they didn't need to have, you may or may not have gotten infected and it causes damage, well, I gotta kind of own that as a physician as a representative of the medical industrial complex and a participant in it. And so for whatever reason there's a under reporting bias clearly in the adult population and I think that people being be a little more sensitive to adverse events and deaths in their children."
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